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you're locked into Inception Radio

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Network superior Wisconsin aliens to

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ghosts demons hatred from shadow people

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through the outlandish tiny houses the

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welcome welcome everybody to my awesome

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Friday evening you're listening to me

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Heidi Hollis

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the Outlander so welcome to this lovely

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show oh it has been a crazy day people

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and it's cold in Chicago I am just like

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why am I here again oh that's right it's

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a fun city and there's lots to do and

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great food and great people but the cold

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somebody could ship it out to see for

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all I could cure but I want to tell you

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guys what this show is about because

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it's a lot of you guys I have been I've

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got a lot of really neat and cool people

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reaching out to me as of late I've been

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doing you know the month of October is

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super duper busy for people like myself

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so been doing a lot of other radio shows

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and even the unexplained files a

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television show on a Science Channel

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Discovery Channel and all that stuff so

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where people are like saying hey there's

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a chick over there let me go see what

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she's doing so it's a lot more people I

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think that are tuning in this evening

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who don't know who the heck I am so I'm

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going to tell you but this show is about

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bringing outlandish topics to the

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forefront I don't care if there's an

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angel fluttering around in your bathroom

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ghosts demons shadow people to Bigfoot

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to the outlandish all I say if it's

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weird we're here and so are you so

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welcome welcome everybody it's okay it's

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okay you're among friends

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and who the heck am i right I'm gonna

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tell you if you don't know who I am when

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it comes to the outlandish I'm someone

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who has been there seen that experience

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that freaked out found some answers I

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wrote about it got over it and now I'm

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trying to help everybody else get over

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this crazy paranormal stuff too it can

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be done it could be done if you want to

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learn more about me please visit my main

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website which is Penn in paper

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everybody Heidi Hollis calm h IID i wait

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hol l is calm okay there you go and you

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will discover things there that just

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will mystify yeah

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and I want to welcome you guys also to

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go to paranormal pledge calm mm-hmm-hmm

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that is where you're making a pledge

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people and I'm gonna tell you a little

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want to welcome you to go to my newest

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releasing a new book in December I just

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decided it needs to be out there I

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wanted to put it out there sooner but

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it's gonna be put out there ASAP and

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it's called this is the dot-com and the

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December when the December as soon as

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shows to do because this is where we get

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comfortable where we get cozy and it's

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part of the paranormal pledge - how

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about that paranormal pledge calm this

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write or Skype or whatever it is that

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you do into the program and I will read

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off your stories or we could talk about

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what it is that you've experienced out

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there that has been just a little bit

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different and that maybe just maybe may

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don't know I'm not a guru and I'm not a

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psychic but you know we

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I'll have a little bit more experience

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than others and these different things

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sometimes and I just do my best so I

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find inception Radio Network and send

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your questions there and also I want you

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to know if you ever want me to read off

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your emails and answer your questions to

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stop usually for the first 30 minutes of

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all of my programs you can't hear me

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talk about these things and the phone

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lines are open to you guys to just talk

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to me that weird talk to me that bizarre

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just don't freak out

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don't cuss either cuz I think we have a

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hang up button around here somewhere

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only I could swear gosh darn it is that

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something somebody Sam could say gosh

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darn it right and I think that was

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somebody Sam I don't know Warner

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Brothers but anyways yes you guys are

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welcome to reach out and it's just fun I

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just have a good old time doing this

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stuff you guys are awesome and I I

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really have to say thank you for

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trusting me I don't know why you do know

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I was kiddin and I will only use her

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first names if that's what you desire or

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no name so feel free to write me at dusk

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Outlander at gmail.com and you can hear

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your answers your responses and all that

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good stuff if you go to the archives on

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inception radio network network that

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come or go to Heidi Hollis calm and

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click on the radio page

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it links right up okey-dokey smokey

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croaky dokie mmm where was I ok so yeah

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I'm gonna just go into the outlandish

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corner because that's just the way we

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roll people and again feel free to call

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up the first email as we hang out here

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doot-doot-doot oh my goodness I have

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some big juicy ones I can't tell where

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these begin and end you know I've been

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like having some really really cool

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guests as of late so I've been kind of

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cutting out that Lynch corner which is

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not typical of me but like you know I

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just wanted to hear the whole shebang

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for as much as I could so I just yeah so

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these are backed up on me but we will

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clear it out like roto-rooter right okay

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this is a big juicy one so I'm gonna be

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reading for a while everybody pull up

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the popcorn put your feet up on the

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Ottoman and snuggle up with your Snuggie

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on the couch and be terrified keep a

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light on dear Heidi that's me

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I saw the Hat man a 2003 oh that's

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horrible I went to visit my old roommate

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in her apartment I had been there before

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but hadn't visited there in awhile

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because it wasn't close to my place

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anyway we were sitting across from each

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other at her dining room table in this

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small one-bedroom apartment just

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chatting my former roommate knows I can

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see things and I tend to make her

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nervous because she sees things when I

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am around too me too in my friends and

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they blame me I go figure I don't get it

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anyway as she was talking to me I see a

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shadow in her bedroom and I didn't

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interrupt her but I thought gee I

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thought she was home alone I was

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thinking it was her boyfriend a big

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african-american guy oh we got calls

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coming in I will get to that in a minute

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here well as she was talking she saw me

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looking but she didn't say anything or

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asked but she knew I saw something so I

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looked away from her and then back to

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the shadow man that was at that point

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walking towards me and getting bigger

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and bigger

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he was just solid black but I couldn't

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tell if he was like a block or lumpy

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like a person oh the lumpy people of the

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world raise your hand that's funny

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or lumpy like a person yeah we got a

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whole bunch of Lumpy's right come on

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baby what's okay what's the to surmise I

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could read this he seems solid but he

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was tall and wide like six feet tall and

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almost filled the doorway so I looked

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back at her again as she spoke trying to

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act like I didn't have anything

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distracting me well as it was getting

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closer I was thinking any other time I

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see things normally they are gone when I

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look back and this guy just kept a-comin

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so as he gets to where he's either going

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right to me or he has to turn right or

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left he turned left and went to the

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front door of her apartment then when he

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got to the door it was like he became

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flat like a piece of paper and went

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under the door like paper would hold on

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I saw this in the book I like was

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growing up was called Flat Stanley

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that's comes to mind for me anyways

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people how about you he seemed very

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geometric very squared off versus

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rounded features in his silhouette I

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hope this made some sense as it is hard

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to write up in my opinion and so my

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former roommate asked me what I saw and

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I asked her why I was pretending to play

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dumb and she said I did a quadruple take

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on something and ended at the door I

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told her that I didn't want to scare her

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but that whatever it was it was gone now

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it's either done to the door I'm just

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kidding huh I didn't tell her that I

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knew whatever it was it was evil and I

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had never seen that before nor since but

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when I went back to her place it wasn't

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there so I don't know what that was

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about but I do know that for whatever

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reason I tend to stir them up and they

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tend to leave when I enter a place it

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was kind of cool you're just like this

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Orkin Man huh and the broaches on their

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way years later just before I left

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Arizona to move to Texas I visited my

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old roommate again she is a heavyset

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person I don't think she's very healthy

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due to that fact due to that hmm okay

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but as we were chatting the Grim Reaper

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was with her oh that was in 2006 I've

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lost contact with her boy your friend

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had some issues

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I means Flat Stanley and then the soccer

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Reaper look okay I've lost contact with

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her she's been consumed by health and

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mental problems the last few years so

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she's not staying in touch with anyone I

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just wanted to run this by you I'm so

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glad you wrote the book and went on out

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caravan to midnight that was another

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radio show dead the thought of that hat

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man experience has bothered me on an

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offer all these years I don't know what

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he was doing in her place nor that I saw

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him and he knew it and he left but if

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you haven't an insight it would be great

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to hear I know you will have thousands

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of emails after the show but that is one

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of my many experiences I want to share

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now that I know it's not a rare thing I

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recently saw a shaman to get my chakras

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cleared and she had to clear one entity

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that was causing chaos I feel like now I

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have many things cleared but still I

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don't feel great and thinking that

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seeing these things affects a person

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what do you do to keep them out thank

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you for your work now that I know about

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you I will follow your work for the rest

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of my days whoa Wow cool that's that's

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awesome

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thanks so much Cheri and then it goes

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there was a backup email Tydeus at my

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last email with the hat man story but I

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also wanted to ask what it means when I

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go into spaces all the creatures get

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stirred up and most of them most of all

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they leave the space I'm not religious

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I'm a decent person but what about me

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scares them I'm not scared of them but

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when I come in they get moving also

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there's a shaman the best way to make

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sure everything stays clear for me

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personally or is there another way to do

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this that would be better I try to keep

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everything clear for my four-year-old

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son I don't want him bothered by them

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just curious if you had an opinion can't

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wait to hear you show Friday thanks

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Sheree for Merck Wisconsinite as well

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which is for intraday Shari what's up

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girlfriend

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well holy cannolis that's a whole lot so

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Flat Stanley the hat man came into your

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space your friend space and slithered

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under the door like a piece of paper you

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know I've heard of him kind of folding

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that way and kind of not quite seeming

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you know fully three-dimensional but

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this flat thing and just goes in between

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things like

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it's I don't know it's bizarre he could

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kind of present himself as he wants just

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because he's a jerk of sorts he didn't

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can't always figure him out so yeah he

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did a jerk side under the door you know

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what bah that's that's okay now you were

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also asking about this Grim Reaper dude

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that is that is disturbing yes so that

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your phone was being essentially

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consumed by health and mental problems

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the last few years so she's not staying

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in touch anymore

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I would say that a dark force may have

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indeed impressed upon her I mean that's

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just this is what they do

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I mean here you saw that nasty Grim

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Reaper looking creep hanging by her and

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you know all sudden her health goes down

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or mental health goes down it's I don't

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think it's coincidence cuz this happens

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quite a bit with these dark entities

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that they just kind of hang and they

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drag it out you ever have a friend

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that's a vampire of sorts that just

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sucks you dry of anything good of you

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and it's like do you have some more good

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to give here I'll take that too you got

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some more sugar huh you know here here's

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my bowl fill it and then they come back

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five minutes later send us they say that

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you got some more sugar so it's just

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maybe they're caramelizing it I don't

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know but it's a nice topping for

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something but it's like they can use

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here good vibes against you and then you

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isolate yourself which is the worst

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thing to do and voila you have somebody

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in a pit of trouble and health and

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spirit and all that stuff goes down the

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drain with it now I wanted to address

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something that's the most important part

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in here because this just kills me

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this just kills me sherry you put I'm

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not a religious person but I'm a decent

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person but what about you scares them

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and then you're asking if a shaman is

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the best way to go is stay clear for for

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these things

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and you're also wondering how to keep

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these these things out okay all right

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okay okay so you're not religious but

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you went to a shaman so I mean I don't

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know that religion that belief system of

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a shaman I mean I kind of think of you

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know Native things and you're not

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writing as if you're a native but you

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don't really

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it's a belief system so it's kind of a

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religious thing you know what I mean

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there's traditions there's practices you

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don't ride on in and say hey throw your

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religion all over me I'm gonna bathe in

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this oh it feels good you know you're

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not religious but you knew to look for

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something but for summary there's a lot

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of people when it comes to not wanting

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to dive into religion because maybe it

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was crammed on your throat when you're a

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kid and you just resented it hey I was

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down those roads I've sat on those hard

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church pews and my legs went numb and I

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didn't appreciate it and I knew it was a

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mini-vacation for my parents on Sundays

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because they didn't go make sure we went

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so it's like I don't know it's like

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people get in that mindset like go I

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don't want to go back to that oh there's

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somebody over there chanting let's see

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what that is perhaps that'll work for me

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you know you have been witnessing

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demonic stuff like outright evil and you

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know it's evil you feel it you see it

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you smell it it's hanging around your

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friend she's going down the hole into

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the armpits of hell I swore you saw this

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but you don't have any feelings for

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faith well you saw something that's the

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likes of the devil or hers little spawn

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or minions but you just don't want to go

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there to defend yourself but you let

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somebody else through their religion at

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you so yeah that's a little a little

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different I say it's not about being

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religious is about being faithful so if

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something comes at you that can throw

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darkness in your face why don't you

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throw some light back at them it's

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called faith get some faith in there

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Charles

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back at him cuz otherwise you're it's

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the equivalent of whipping a shoe Adam

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because you got nothing to throw at him

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so how do you keep these things away

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face cheri faith you don't have to be

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religious just be spiritually inclined

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towards the one God that I've no one

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love and Jesus is awesome

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so hey that's that's where I stand with

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that so if you want to keep those things

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at bay and not let them come around any

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further get with it and that is why I am

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putting that book out and I have the

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website the other F word com it's on

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faith because people are just doing

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things oddly and I don't understand it's

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okay to go back to the faith of your

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childhood that's okay

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sometimes it's for good you know if your

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parents are devil worshippers don't go

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back there please

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all right so I hope that helped you

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sherry I have a caller that's been

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waiting here patiently uh who's the

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caller who's this I have to look up the

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name here I wasn't even paying attention

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who's our caller here hello

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I got Maggie uh is it me oh yeah thank

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you there how are you doing there Maggie

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I'm I'm great I love your book

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it just affirms a lot of stuff that's

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happened to me so okay um I you an email

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yesterday somehow it didn't go through

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so I'll just tell you what I was gonna

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say in the email indeed which book are

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you speaking of that that you learned mm

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well the one about it's got the stuff

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about the shadow people and the

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channeling information got it okay the

448
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secret war got it okay no do tell

449
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awesome so what is what's your situation

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what happened uh well so I've worked in

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places with heavy doors most of my life

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so I was working on a forensic unit in a

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mental hospital and I used to see shadow

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people running up and down the hallways

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and fillings and and you know they're

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they're out of it I'm not psychic or

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anything so they're out of the corner of

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my eyes and other people had you know

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sometimes I would work with Native

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American people too and they

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they'd seen them in the rooms and stuff

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so Wow

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III ask somebody about it because I

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there was just a feeling it wasn't like

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it was a ghost mm-hmm was I seeing that

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it's not the same so I was really good

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to hear your information because it was

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really control I'm so glad what used to

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happen you know what used to happen is

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that we had well we did have a Satanist

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on the unit they they found it

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for some reason they decided to put all

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the antisocial personality disorders on

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one unit and so I used to literally feel

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like I was walking into the bowels of

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Hell whoo yeah and but this stuff

477
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happened before this guy came there but

478
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but it kind of got worse and I could you

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know I had problems with the other staff

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I worked with some of the staff some of

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the staff I didn't but but I could see

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it come over them like a wave and so the

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these beings were and I think that there

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may be interdimensional but they have

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never incarnated here and and it would

486
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just influence other people and it was

487
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like this I'm the only way I can

488
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describe it if it's like this snarling

489
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kind of thing so you know it would

490
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influence other people's behavior but

491
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they didn't see it you know they didn't

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they didn't recognize it something was

493
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influencing you know how interesting but

494
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you'd see this like take place yeah I

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mean I didn't see I didn't see the

496
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beings over them but I I'm I'm sometimes

497
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sensitive to energy and so I'm not I'm

498
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not real visual so I'm I could sense it

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madness and so it's like a feeding

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frenzy when they're present so they feed

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on this negative energy and I'm said I

502
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would see them running down the hallways

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would be you know maybe

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four o'clock in the morning or so be and

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I think that's why they call three

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o'clock like the witching hours because

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because they they don't want to be

508
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exposed to the light oh no they don't

509
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you've noticed that pattern huh yeah

510
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yeah so that I think that's why I saw

511
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them running down the hallway is because

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they were you know they kind of done

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their feeding frenzy for the evening for

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the night oh ah

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and I also thought I thought what I

516
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thought was a dog once at home and you

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know it's about that time the morning

518
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but but that was separate from my work

519
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situation gotcha

520
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my goodness so in no one else saw this

521
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pattern going on eylem work well there

522
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were problems at work but a lot of

523
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people had seen the shadow people in the

524
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rooms because we had to make rounds and

525
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they had seen them in the rooms before

526
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but I don't I don't think that anybody

527
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differentiated between wood there were

528
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ghosts there too so I don't think

529
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anybody differentiated between the

530
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shadow people and it goes oh my gosh

531
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that is just wild so it's it's

532
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interesting to me that I mean have you

533
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experienced these things like you know

534
00:24:10,250 --> 00:24:08,250
other parts of your life growing up or

535
00:24:17,149 --> 00:24:10,260
you know is this this is a pattern Hills

536
00:24:20,270 --> 00:24:17,159
family no this is not not at home it's

537
00:24:22,730 --> 00:24:20,280
their work only to work isn't that

538
00:24:25,070 --> 00:24:22,740
something worked in psychiatry for a lot

539
00:24:27,890 --> 00:24:25,080
of years but I I was just thinking about

540
00:24:29,539 --> 00:24:27,900
you yesterday and I sort of sort of as a

541
00:24:33,409 --> 00:24:29,549
hobby because I work in places with

542
00:24:37,250 --> 00:24:33,419
heavy doors sort of collect ways that

543
00:24:39,770 --> 00:24:37,260
you can protect yourself and and strange

544
00:24:41,810 --> 00:24:39,780
hobby I know but and I was thinking

545
00:24:44,450 --> 00:24:41,820
about your sense of humor and I was

546
00:24:50,060 --> 00:24:44,460
thinking that's really a means of

547
00:24:52,250 --> 00:24:50,070
protection oh yeah well humor I think

548
00:24:57,530 --> 00:24:52,260
that's I mean I think it's protective

549
00:24:59,630 --> 00:24:57,540
yeah because I it really it really it

550
00:25:01,520 --> 00:24:59,640
not only shifts you but I mean the

551
00:25:03,350 --> 00:25:01,530
people that listen to you

552
00:25:05,780 --> 00:25:03,360
well when you talk about this stuff

553
00:25:07,610 --> 00:25:05,790
there's a shift that happened well you

554
00:25:09,260 --> 00:25:07,620
know what I know there's a way to shut

555
00:25:12,410 --> 00:25:09,270
brains down and there's a way to open

556
00:25:14,510 --> 00:25:12,420
brains up and it's like you know I could

557
00:25:17,450 --> 00:25:14,520
shut her and sit in the corner and just

558
00:25:20,060 --> 00:25:17,460
be fearful and dead serious and you know

559
00:25:21,830 --> 00:25:20,070
I I think that that has been done over

560
00:25:23,630 --> 00:25:21,840
and over again to a point where it's

561
00:25:27,830 --> 00:25:23,640
like people have heard it they know the

562
00:25:29,900 --> 00:25:27,840
routine it's not as effective now I mean

563
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:29,910
it's I think that people need to realize

564
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:32,210
that the paranormal is pretty normal and

565
00:25:36,940 --> 00:25:34,890
you know it's okay to laugh at it's okay

566
00:25:39,620 --> 00:25:36,950
to you know treat this as any other

567
00:25:41,780 --> 00:25:39,630
topic that you would as humanely flawed

568
00:25:44,030 --> 00:25:41,790
as possible which is how I like to go

569
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:44,040
about things and it's like you know and

570
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:45,930
that's how I write my books too and it's

571
00:25:48,890 --> 00:25:46,890
like I

572
00:25:54,500 --> 00:25:48,900
I just want people to be able to open

573
00:25:57,740 --> 00:25:54,510
their minds without fear why not that's

574
00:26:00,140 --> 00:25:57,750
how I feel and what what I used to find

575
00:26:02,300 --> 00:26:00,150
when I was at work is people were kind

576
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:02,310
you know I was fairly open about and

577
00:26:06,710 --> 00:26:04,410
I've been and it was kind of involved in

578
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:06,720
the UFO community and stuff and so I

579
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:09,210
would I would be very open about my

580
00:26:12,140 --> 00:26:10,530
stuff and some people would make fun of

581
00:26:14,330 --> 00:26:12,150
me but you know what would happen later

582
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:14,340
is somebody and I know that you find

583
00:26:17,420 --> 00:26:16,050
this because you you know like work in

584
00:26:19,250 --> 00:26:17,430
the hospital somebody will take you

585
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:19,260
aside and go you know this thing

586
00:26:27,860 --> 00:26:21,570
happened to me one time but don't tell

587
00:26:30,530 --> 00:26:27,870
anybody oh gosh a lot I've had it happen

588
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:30,540
a lot and God forbid they find out what

589
00:26:34,610 --> 00:26:32,490
it is that I do and they're just like oh

590
00:26:35,870 --> 00:26:34,620
I could tell her but sometimes it's not

591
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:35,880
a healthy thing because I do have

592
00:26:40,460 --> 00:26:38,010
patients that are schizophrenic and they

593
00:26:43,310 --> 00:26:40,470
feed into it and I'm like you know so I

594
00:26:45,470 --> 00:26:43,320
have to back away and like that's yeah

595
00:26:49,730 --> 00:26:45,480
that's a little further than I go sorry

596
00:26:52,820 --> 00:26:49,740
you know so it's it keeps life

597
00:26:54,770 --> 00:26:52,830
entertaining that's for sure well when

598
00:26:58,100 --> 00:26:54,780
you work in those areas though it's

599
00:27:03,890 --> 00:26:58,110
nothing else Heidi we we both know how

600
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:03,900
to stay out of the hospital always maybe

601
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:06,050
at some point that might be useful I

602
00:27:12,050 --> 00:27:10,290
think it is Oh Maggie I really wanna

603
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:12,060
thank you so much for giving us a call

604
00:27:15,350 --> 00:27:13,890
from North Carolina even that's that's

605
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:15,360
awesome

606
00:27:19,970 --> 00:27:17,850
yeah well they keep up the good work

607
00:27:21,830 --> 00:27:19,980
thank you so much and you know thanks

608
00:27:24,050 --> 00:27:21,840
for listening and you know feel free

609
00:27:25,340 --> 00:27:24,060
always everybody feel free to call I'm

610
00:27:27,980 --> 00:27:25,350
I'm sitting here hanging out having a

611
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:27,990
good old time so alright [\h__\h] we're

612
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gonna go to our first break here and oh

613
00:27:35,900 --> 00:27:34,380
boy do I have a ton more stories to go

614
00:27:38,990 --> 00:27:35,910
to so I really want to thank you for

615
00:27:42,380 --> 00:27:39,000
calling oh you're welcome

616
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all right Maggie okay you take care all

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welcome back everybody you are listening

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the Outlander remembering always if it's

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weird we're here and sorry you so stop

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staring at me okay I'm not so strange

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outlandish topics phone lines are open

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ready to chat it up about anything and

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spit out what your insight is hey I'm

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so one eight eight eight nine one nine

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two three five five feel free to call in

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oh this is fun this is fun so anyways I

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have another awesome person calling in I

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have Michael from Georgia calling in hey

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there Michael how are you good evening

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00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:18,350
how are you doing I'm doing okay

713
00:33:25,870 --> 00:33:23,210
great a my dad's from Georgia well I'm

714
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:25,880
originally from Ohio so oh so you don't

715
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:28,450
qualify for a real Georgian huh

716
00:33:35,260 --> 00:33:31,610
yeah I'll be a northerner for life

717
00:33:36,789 --> 00:33:35,270
problems I hear you I hear you it's like

718
00:33:40,299 --> 00:33:36,799
I'm from Wisconsin I'm here in Chicago

719
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:40,309
you know that Packer bear thing I will

720
00:33:49,270 --> 00:33:44,090
forever like it's just not going to

721
00:33:51,460 --> 00:33:49,280
happen I won't convert so tell me what's

722
00:33:52,870 --> 00:33:51,470
what's going on have you got some

723
00:33:57,549 --> 00:33:52,880
insight or you experience something a

724
00:34:00,779 --> 00:33:57,559
little bit odd well yeah you have a

725
00:34:03,730 --> 00:34:00,789
story it's not a really long one

726
00:34:09,190 --> 00:34:03,740
paranormal it involves I guess you would

727
00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:09,200
have to say ghosts or spirits come well

728
00:34:15,099 --> 00:34:12,320
let's see this was probably I'm 38 now

729
00:34:20,139 --> 00:34:15,109
so I would say it was at least 15 years

730
00:34:25,030 --> 00:34:20,149
ago when I still lived in Ohio it was a

731
00:34:30,190 --> 00:34:25,040
Saturday week a week and I was helping a

732
00:34:35,129 --> 00:34:30,200
friend move a family member out of their

733
00:34:38,089 --> 00:34:35,139
house they his friend's mother

734
00:34:40,470 --> 00:34:38,099
died and they were selling the property

735
00:34:42,659 --> 00:34:40,480
and you know they were clearing it out

736
00:34:44,970 --> 00:34:42,669
cos you know obvious reasons he didn't

737
00:34:46,470 --> 00:34:44,980
want to you know live there take the

738
00:34:50,549 --> 00:34:46,480
property over you know it was a really

739
00:34:57,299 --> 00:34:50,559
hard loss for him bad and you know as

740
00:34:59,099 --> 00:34:57,309
you can imagine yeah so they you know it

741
00:35:01,559 --> 00:34:59,109
was interesting because they had started

742
00:35:04,740 --> 00:35:01,569
moving on a Friday and I was able to

743
00:35:09,870 --> 00:35:04,750
help out Saturday and Sunday they were

744
00:35:12,029 --> 00:35:09,880
done by Sunday but now they had never

745
00:35:17,250 --> 00:35:12,039
said anything about any activity in the

746
00:35:18,870 --> 00:35:17,260
houses or vehicles and we started off at

747
00:35:22,289 --> 00:35:18,880
the bottom of the house moving things

748
00:35:24,150 --> 00:35:22,299
out and you know we were working up our

749
00:35:26,670 --> 00:35:24,160
wake I think they had like three rooms

750
00:35:28,109 --> 00:35:26,680
and upstairs and not an addict you know

751
00:35:30,990 --> 00:35:28,119
it was a typical house they had a

752
00:35:32,970 --> 00:35:31,000
basement with home dyno Mary kitchen and

753
00:35:35,609 --> 00:35:32,980
there was three bedrooms off the hallway

754
00:35:38,250 --> 00:35:35,619
with the bathroom and then the attic so

755
00:35:40,740 --> 00:35:38,260
we were you know moving that downstairs

756
00:35:42,859 --> 00:35:40,750
part of the house out and we've kind of

757
00:35:46,769 --> 00:35:42,869
learned you know like had little noises

758
00:35:48,690 --> 00:35:46,779
you know maybe like shuffling around you

759
00:35:52,140 --> 00:35:48,700
know I mean not you would really kind of

760
00:35:54,509 --> 00:35:52,150
took out ordinary so we just want about

761
00:35:57,990 --> 00:35:54,519
our business and you know like we didn't

762
00:36:00,900 --> 00:35:58,000
think too much of it so we're working

763
00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:00,910
our way upstairs and we you know kind of

764
00:36:07,170 --> 00:36:03,609
hear what sounded like you know like a

765
00:36:09,870 --> 00:36:07,180
door slam but you know we didn't know

766
00:36:13,079 --> 00:36:09,880
what door from what room we thought it

767
00:36:14,190 --> 00:36:13,089
was a little odd and he said all that's

768
00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:14,200
probably nothing

769
00:36:20,220 --> 00:36:17,680
now this firm that I was helping is his

770
00:36:22,980 --> 00:36:20,230
family member his name was Bob and it

771
00:36:26,759 --> 00:36:22,990
will come and keep what happens next in

772
00:36:28,380 --> 00:36:26,769
the story so you know pastas always you

773
00:36:30,870 --> 00:36:28,390
know it was probably nothing maybe you

774
00:36:32,549 --> 00:36:30,880
know the windows open the most moving

775
00:36:35,009 --> 00:36:32,559
you know because I was there in the

776
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:35,019
summer so it was a little for him and

777
00:36:37,650 --> 00:36:36,490
he's like it's probably just what it was

778
00:36:39,779 --> 00:36:37,660
we're like you know you're probably

779
00:36:44,789 --> 00:36:39,789
right back you know no problem don't

780
00:36:46,890 --> 00:36:44,799
worry about it so we started with the

781
00:36:49,019 --> 00:36:46,900
first room it was closes off the hallway

782
00:36:51,839 --> 00:36:49,029
it cleared that out we didn't

783
00:36:53,549 --> 00:36:51,849
can you do anything else so we're

784
00:36:58,829 --> 00:36:53,559
working our land to the second bedroom

785
00:37:00,630 --> 00:36:58,839
and we hear something like we thought it

786
00:37:02,399 --> 00:37:00,640
was a voice but then you know it's

787
00:37:05,759 --> 00:37:02,409
typical all you think you're hearing

788
00:37:07,499 --> 00:37:05,769
things right you know you know just a

789
00:37:10,859 --> 00:37:07,509
typical stuff like that oh you know it

790
00:37:13,499 --> 00:37:10,869
was just our imagination so now we go

791
00:37:16,979 --> 00:37:13,509
downstairs you know we're caring you

792
00:37:18,779 --> 00:37:16,989
know buddy down and dressers and so Bob

793
00:37:23,009 --> 00:37:18,789
was up there by himself clearly not one

794
00:37:25,829 --> 00:37:23,019
of the rooms so then he said that he he

795
00:37:27,870 --> 00:37:25,839
heard a voice for sure and you know we

796
00:37:30,359 --> 00:37:27,880
didn't believe them you know we're like

797
00:37:32,009 --> 00:37:30,369
oh come on you're pulling our leg you

798
00:37:34,919 --> 00:37:32,019
know what are you trying to say you know

799
00:37:37,109 --> 00:37:34,929
like you know Tommy here or something on

800
00:37:39,390 --> 00:37:37,119
it you know you know your mother just

801
00:37:41,669 --> 00:37:39,400
died only recently and it's like what

802
00:37:46,109 --> 00:37:41,679
are you trying to pull our leg and he's

803
00:37:47,909 --> 00:37:46,119
like no I heard a voice so we finish the

804
00:37:50,159 --> 00:37:47,919
room and he was in and there was one

805
00:37:55,109 --> 00:37:50,169
room left you know from the upstairs

806
00:37:58,319 --> 00:37:55,119
there and we were taking out some you

807
00:38:00,149 --> 00:37:58,329
know more you know dressers and the bed

808
00:38:04,229 --> 00:38:00,159
had helped you know he had to go out so

809
00:38:06,299 --> 00:38:04,239
that as we're leaving the room we myself

810
00:38:11,999 --> 00:38:06,309
and my friend both heard it we heard a

811
00:38:13,769 --> 00:38:12,009
voice and you know we just kind of like

812
00:38:16,859 --> 00:38:13,779
you know stopped in our tracks we

813
00:38:19,349 --> 00:38:16,869
actually put down what we were care and

814
00:38:20,549 --> 00:38:19,359
and looked at each other you know and

815
00:38:22,649 --> 00:38:20,559
it's one of those things where you know

816
00:38:24,630 --> 00:38:22,659
if you rub your eye anything you shake

817
00:38:28,620 --> 00:38:24,640
your head you're like did we just hear

818
00:38:30,569 --> 00:38:28,630
that and it was just you know why are

819
00:38:35,909 --> 00:38:30,579
those moments where you realize it like

820
00:38:36,839 --> 00:38:35,919
nah this it can't be so we stand there

821
00:38:40,199 --> 00:38:36,849
and we're trying to you know get

822
00:38:42,630 --> 00:38:40,209
ourselves together and you know it like

823
00:38:44,579 --> 00:38:42,640
often he's like I was with you guys it

824
00:38:47,039 --> 00:38:44,589
wasn't like I was by myself when I heard

825
00:38:51,019 --> 00:38:47,049
it and I was going around both of you

826
00:38:55,199 --> 00:38:51,029
guys heard it and you were with me and

827
00:38:59,729 --> 00:38:55,209
let's say we moved the rest of the house

828
00:39:03,569 --> 00:38:59,739
out faster than any other party and we

829
00:39:06,989 --> 00:39:03,579
were done who was it that it went died

830
00:39:09,149 --> 00:39:06,999
recently again who was it it was it was

831
00:39:11,669 --> 00:39:09,159
well it was my buddy it was one of his

832
00:39:15,149 --> 00:39:11,679
family members now the family members

833
00:39:17,249 --> 00:39:15,159
mother had passed away that said this

834
00:39:20,599 --> 00:39:17,259
was a week this was a weekend like a

835
00:39:25,380 --> 00:39:20,609
Saturday I think she had passed away

836
00:39:27,089 --> 00:39:25,390
woman yeah oh no it was it was a woman's

837
00:39:29,069 --> 00:39:27,099
voice there was there was no doubt about

838
00:39:31,140 --> 00:39:29,079
it and it sounded like another only

839
00:39:33,979 --> 00:39:31,150
woman to like that was a thing she was

840
00:39:38,549 --> 00:39:33,989
an older lady and the voice was female

841
00:39:39,419 --> 00:39:38,559
100% and it was also elderly sounding on

842
00:39:42,259 --> 00:39:39,429
top of it

843
00:39:48,419 --> 00:39:42,269
Wow what did Bob have to say about this

844
00:39:51,479 --> 00:39:48,429
well I mean and he neither it affected

845
00:39:52,739 --> 00:39:51,489
into what I guess he wasn't too

846
00:39:56,069 --> 00:39:52,749
surprised because they get a really

847
00:39:59,789 --> 00:39:56,079
close relationship you know from what I

848
00:40:01,169 --> 00:39:59,799
remember I didn't know him very well but

849
00:40:02,819 --> 00:40:01,179
I guess they did have a close

850
00:40:06,689 --> 00:40:02,829
relationship in the house had been in

851
00:40:08,309 --> 00:40:06,699
the family you know for a long time it

852
00:40:10,589 --> 00:40:08,319
doesn't something like that just totally

853
00:40:15,390 --> 00:40:10,599
shatter your sense of reality sometimes

854
00:40:17,759 --> 00:40:15,400
like what the heck did I mean did you

855
00:40:22,380 --> 00:40:17,769
just kind of like I mean did it make you

856
00:40:24,959 --> 00:40:22,390
question things for yourself well I

857
00:40:26,819 --> 00:40:24,969
think to be honest I mean I've always

858
00:40:29,399 --> 00:40:26,829
kind of been a geek like that I've

859
00:40:32,159 --> 00:40:29,409
always been into paranormal you know

860
00:40:34,679 --> 00:40:32,169
things you know you name it Frank you

861
00:40:37,109 --> 00:40:34,689
know I always believed and you know you

862
00:40:38,909 --> 00:40:37,119
know spirits even open till then I have

863
00:40:41,519 --> 00:40:38,919
always had known people that have

864
00:40:43,979 --> 00:40:41,529
experienced you know something but I've

865
00:40:46,499 --> 00:40:43,989
always been into it you know I was

866
00:40:50,009 --> 00:40:46,509
really for school reading your books on

867
00:40:51,799 --> 00:40:50,019
big swig and listen air I've always I've

868
00:40:54,569 --> 00:40:51,809
always been in that type of thing but

869
00:40:56,249 --> 00:40:54,579
and it's not like I didn't believe it

870
00:40:59,189 --> 00:40:56,259
but I had just never experienced it

871
00:41:02,189 --> 00:40:59,199
myself and when I did then it was pretty

872
00:41:04,380 --> 00:41:02,199
much look I said this was you know fifty

873
00:41:05,879 --> 00:41:04,390
years ago it was pretty much evident now

874
00:41:08,779 --> 00:41:05,889
I haven't experienced nothing before

875
00:41:12,359 --> 00:41:08,789
then or after oh really

876
00:41:14,339 --> 00:41:12,369
yeah but you know it was definitely like

877
00:41:16,109 --> 00:41:14,349
you know one of those moments

878
00:41:18,299 --> 00:41:16,119
it was confirmation of what you pretty

879
00:41:20,969 --> 00:41:18,309
much already wait you know what I like

880
00:41:23,189 --> 00:41:20,979
about your your story here too it's like

881
00:41:26,519 --> 00:41:23,199
here you know you were into the topic

882
00:41:29,549 --> 00:41:26,529
beforehand and it you have the one

883
00:41:31,589 --> 00:41:29,559
experience and there's so many people

884
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:31,599
who I think even if they're into the

885
00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:32,890
topic they kind of call into question

886
00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:35,440
their own senses did that really happen

887
00:41:39,900 --> 00:41:37,569
I don't know it's been so long and they

888
00:41:41,910 --> 00:41:39,910
just kind of lose you know the belief

889
00:41:44,099 --> 00:41:41,920
that it really really took place and and

890
00:41:46,289 --> 00:41:44,109
not everybody who's into the topic I

891
00:41:47,519 --> 00:41:46,299
mean I've seen this firsthand and they

892
00:41:50,489 --> 00:41:47,529
experience something for the first time

893
00:41:53,370 --> 00:41:50,499
they don't always take it very well when

894
00:41:55,079 --> 00:41:53,380
it's maximum right dab in the middle of

895
00:41:57,959 --> 00:41:55,089
the eyes you know for themselves even

896
00:41:59,910 --> 00:41:57,969
though they had an open mind it's it

897
00:42:03,420 --> 00:41:59,920
could really shake a person's foundation

898
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:03,430
so I mean I applaud you for your ability

899
00:42:08,939 --> 00:42:05,890
to discern and hold it together and and

900
00:42:10,589 --> 00:42:08,949
have that one experience having you know

901
00:42:12,809 --> 00:42:10,599
concreted this in your head and

902
00:42:14,689 --> 00:42:12,819
heartened your interest to tell her

903
00:42:17,609 --> 00:42:14,699
stuff surreal I experienced something

904
00:42:19,859 --> 00:42:17,619
that's kind of cool well that you know

905
00:42:22,019 --> 00:42:19,869
the thing too it's like I wasn't had

906
00:42:24,749 --> 00:42:22,029
definitely looking Florida it's worth I

907
00:42:27,870 --> 00:42:24,759
wasn't thinking about and expecting it I

908
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:27,880
wasn't you know doing a Sena seance or

909
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:29,170
you know playing with a Ouija board

910
00:42:34,019 --> 00:42:31,170
beforehand I mean it was just totally

911
00:42:35,430 --> 00:42:34,029
100% out of the blue but you know like

912
00:42:37,799 --> 00:42:35,440
when it did happen I mean even though I

913
00:42:39,779 --> 00:42:37,809
still you know if you could kind of talk

914
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:39,789
look I still kind of him you know I'm

915
00:42:43,049 --> 00:42:41,410
like I'm sit here you know I hit chills

916
00:42:45,390 --> 00:42:43,059
about you know thinking about it and he

917
00:42:47,999 --> 00:42:45,400
feels like I'm shaking but I mean yeah

918
00:42:51,209 --> 00:42:48,009
everyone persona real it wasn't no setup

919
00:42:53,599 --> 00:42:51,219
it wasn't a prank yeah I mean it was it

920
00:42:57,359 --> 00:42:53,609
was 100% real

921
00:42:59,370 --> 00:42:57,369
like that that's cool yeah I mean it's

922
00:43:01,049 --> 00:42:59,380
just like even though it was 15 years

923
00:43:03,749 --> 00:43:01,059
ago it's like I'm having like shaking

924
00:43:06,299 --> 00:43:03,759
talking about it and having chills you

925
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:06,309
know what I get it because there was

926
00:43:10,199 --> 00:43:08,170
there's some stories that I even share

927
00:43:13,019 --> 00:43:10,209
you know year after year time after time

928
00:43:15,509 --> 00:43:13,029
and just get like either the nasty

929
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:15,519
chills or the cool chills you know like

930
00:43:21,269 --> 00:43:17,650
well that was a neat wonder who that one

931
00:43:24,359 --> 00:43:21,279
was bitter so I totally relate so I mean

932
00:43:26,219 --> 00:43:24,369
I'm with you on that but I mean again I

933
00:43:27,689 --> 00:43:26,229
applaud you for doing what it is that

934
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:27,699
you do and keeping your interest and

935
00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:28,210
keeping your

936
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:30,400
cool about it though it's it you know it

937
00:43:34,859 --> 00:43:32,410
only took the one time I've known people

938
00:43:38,070 --> 00:43:34,869
that have seen UFOs practically slap

939
00:43:40,890 --> 00:43:38,080
them upside the forehead and they go no

940
00:43:43,829 --> 00:43:40,900
I know it just can't I just can't figure

941
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:43,839
it out I'm like what it almost you know

942
00:43:49,500 --> 00:43:46,450
signed its name on your forehead and

943
00:43:51,780 --> 00:43:49,510
you're just you know it's so weird so I

944
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:51,790
mean it's I've seen it so much so I

945
00:43:55,140 --> 00:43:53,290
really I'm impressed

946
00:43:57,089 --> 00:43:55,150
that this is all it took and you know

947
00:43:59,339 --> 00:43:57,099
thank you so much for you know tuning

948
00:44:01,800 --> 00:43:59,349
into the show and calling in while so

949
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:01,810
many people do not call in they'd rather

950
00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:03,490
write their emails was just fine

951
00:44:08,190 --> 00:44:05,710
so I pledge you once again for having

952
00:44:09,570 --> 00:44:08,200
the guts to come on here there's a lot

953
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:09,580
of chickens out there Michael well

954
00:44:17,670 --> 00:44:14,170
that's all I can say I appreciate you

955
00:44:19,410 --> 00:44:17,680
having me on it was very cool well hey

956
00:44:21,089 --> 00:44:19,420
feel free to call in another time even

957
00:44:23,870 --> 00:44:21,099
if you hear of a story and you want to

958
00:44:27,570 --> 00:44:23,880
talk about it feel free I'm open

959
00:44:34,230 --> 00:44:27,580
alright Michael Jordan I should say from

960
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:34,240
Ohio all right take care take her all

961
00:44:38,190 --> 00:44:36,490
right that was pretty cool everybody I

962
00:44:39,780 --> 00:44:38,200
mean you know so many of you are sitting

963
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:39,790
there going gosh I'm scared of Heidi I

964
00:44:45,210 --> 00:44:41,890
don't want to call Michael just called

965
00:44:47,579 --> 00:44:45,220
that was easy wasn't it si si don't be

966
00:44:49,500 --> 00:44:47,589
chicken people don't be chicken what's

967
00:44:51,930 --> 00:44:49,510
the phone number again it is one eight

968
00:44:54,510 --> 00:44:51,940
eight eight nine one nine two three five

969
00:44:56,430 --> 00:44:54,520
five and I'm in the chat room I'm always

970
00:44:57,630 --> 00:44:56,440
in there so if you guys want to send me

971
00:44:59,540 --> 00:44:57,640
a question or something like that put it

972
00:45:03,420 --> 00:44:59,550
in bold so I could catch it because it's

973
00:45:04,859 --> 00:45:03,430
hard to do this dual tasking thing and I

974
00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:04,869
go back a fourth and then I miss stuff

975
00:45:10,859 --> 00:45:09,040
and big letters help so I'm gonna go to

976
00:45:14,820 --> 00:45:10,869
the next email to the next caller comes

977
00:45:16,650 --> 00:45:14,830
along let's see here okay I said I just

978
00:45:19,260 --> 00:45:16,660
wanna know okay like well I'm gonna go

979
00:45:19,620 --> 00:45:19,270
to this one it's that one okay no this

980
00:45:22,260 --> 00:45:19,630
one

981
00:45:24,180 --> 00:45:22,270
dear Heidi that's me I recently heard

982
00:45:26,310 --> 00:45:24,190
you oh my goodness is this money yeah

983
00:45:28,410 --> 00:45:26,320
that's another one I recently heard you

984
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:28,420
on another radio show and I think you

985
00:45:32,670 --> 00:45:29,410
are wonderful

986
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:32,680
well thank you maybe you could shed some

987
00:45:37,770 --> 00:45:34,810
light on a problem I have and have had

988
00:45:40,890 --> 00:45:37,780
since I was a teenager my name is Dennis

989
00:45:41,819 --> 00:45:40,900
I'm now 32 and I'm from King of Prussia

990
00:45:45,079 --> 00:45:41,829
Pennsylvania

991
00:45:49,170 --> 00:45:45,089
yeah since I was a teen I have had over

992
00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:49,180
100 counts of sleep paralysis I've read

993
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:51,609
about this online and I really don't

994
00:45:56,039 --> 00:45:54,249
know who or what to believe over the

995
00:45:58,170 --> 00:45:56,049
past few years the sleep paralysis has

996
00:46:00,779 --> 00:45:58,180
ramped up to where I was having them

997
00:46:04,109 --> 00:46:00,789
several times a week and in some weeks

998
00:46:06,269 --> 00:46:04,119
several times a night gosh that's a lot

999
00:46:08,699 --> 00:46:06,279
during my sleep paralysis I have

1000
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:08,709
encountered many paranormal experiences

1001
00:46:13,199 --> 00:46:10,450
that were and are frightening to the

1002
00:46:15,690 --> 00:46:13,209
point I have to take medication and

1003
00:46:19,170 --> 00:46:15,700
drink to get myself into a very deep

1004
00:46:22,289 --> 00:46:19,180
sleep Oh Dennis is broke my heart I've

1005
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:22,299
had insomnia for throughout my whole

1006
00:46:26,430 --> 00:46:24,249
life and I think that could be part of

1007
00:46:29,150 --> 00:46:26,440
the problem oh I think so too Dennis

1008
00:46:32,009 --> 00:46:29,160
I've seen what you call shadow people

1009
00:46:34,829 --> 00:46:32,019
I've also had different beings around me

1010
00:46:37,380 --> 00:46:34,839
that I can't really explain during my

1011
00:46:39,870 --> 00:46:37,390
episodes of sleep paralysis I've heard

1012
00:46:42,690 --> 00:46:39,880
and seen things that I can't see when I

1013
00:46:44,999 --> 00:46:42,700
am fully awake I've had the feeling of

1014
00:46:47,910 --> 00:46:45,009
being held down and a lot of times I

1015
00:46:50,670 --> 00:46:47,920
can't talk but I can see or hear what is

1016
00:46:53,339 --> 00:46:50,680
around me like the TV still being on so

1017
00:46:55,529 --> 00:46:53,349
I know I am somewhat awake and this is

1018
00:46:57,150 --> 00:46:55,539
happening I believe in Jesus and I pray

1019
00:47:00,329 --> 00:46:57,160
to him when this occurs which usually

1020
00:47:03,660 --> 00:47:00,339
pulls me out of these situations but not

1021
00:47:06,420 --> 00:47:03,670
always laughs interesting I don't want

1022
00:47:08,670 --> 00:47:06,430
to drag this email on too long so that

1023
00:47:10,799 --> 00:47:08,680
was just a summary of what is going on I

1024
00:47:14,849 --> 00:47:10,809
really don't want to take the medication

1025
00:47:17,999 --> 00:47:14,859
for sleep or have to drink but I feel

1026
00:47:20,370 --> 00:47:18,009
when I don't do these things my sleep

1027
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:20,380
paralysis ramps up and I feel it has

1028
00:47:25,199 --> 00:47:22,690
gotten to the point where I am afraid to

1029
00:47:28,859 --> 00:47:25,209
fall asleep because I know that I could

1030
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:28,869
fall into sleep paralysis I've talked

1031
00:47:32,279 --> 00:47:30,130
about this with my parents and other

1032
00:47:34,979 --> 00:47:32,289
people but they keep telling me it's

1033
00:47:36,479 --> 00:47:34,989
just a dream yeah don't you hate that

1034
00:47:38,549 --> 00:47:36,489
please let me know if you have any

1035
00:47:40,529 --> 00:47:38,559
information about this and maybe I can

1036
00:47:42,900 --> 00:47:40,539
call or email you with more in-depth

1037
00:47:44,370 --> 00:47:42,910
descriptions of what is going on thank

1038
00:47:45,059 --> 00:47:44,380
you for all that you do and I hope to

1039
00:47:50,069 --> 00:47:45,069
hear from you

1040
00:47:53,009 --> 00:47:50,079
god bless Dennis Dennis Dennis was

1041
00:47:55,060 --> 00:47:53,019
really really sad I'm so sorry to hear

1042
00:48:01,030 --> 00:47:55,070
this is going on with you

1043
00:48:02,830 --> 00:48:01,040
holy smokes Dennis this can be cut it

1044
00:48:04,900 --> 00:48:02,840
could be cut it could be stopped in its

1045
00:48:07,780 --> 00:48:04,910
tracks I'm not kidding you it seems like

1046
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:07,790
it's a horrific thing and it is it's a

1047
00:48:11,710 --> 00:48:10,370
horrific thing but you know what I love

1048
00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:11,720
you got the faith that you do and you're

1049
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:13,730
like I pray to Jesus about good that's

1050
00:48:19,060 --> 00:48:16,610
good that's awesome but you know I think

1051
00:48:21,430 --> 00:48:19,070
you know when I get emails like yours

1052
00:48:24,010 --> 00:48:21,440
where it's like you know I say Jesus

1053
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:24,020
help me but doesn't always work I think

1054
00:48:28,690 --> 00:48:25,970
there's some questioning that goes on

1055
00:48:32,190 --> 00:48:28,700
sometimes with people and when they're

1056
00:48:36,220 --> 00:48:32,200
met with devilish things so often that

1057
00:48:39,340 --> 00:48:36,230
they doubt sometimes they doubt like oh

1058
00:48:41,670 --> 00:48:39,350
my gosh I'm seeing the biggest stinkiest

1059
00:48:43,570 --> 00:48:41,680
rotten demon thing hanging in my place

1060
00:48:45,610 --> 00:48:43,580
every time I go to sleep and I'm

1061
00:48:48,460 --> 00:48:45,620
terrified and you're scared you're

1062
00:48:52,180 --> 00:48:48,470
scared to fall asleep and with fear

1063
00:48:54,910 --> 00:48:52,190
comes those things yeah cuz they like

1064
00:48:56,290 --> 00:48:54,920
that stuff it's just like you know good

1065
00:48:58,840 --> 00:48:56,300
cold cereal in the morning

1066
00:49:01,540 --> 00:48:58,850
that's just slurp it up and throw

1067
00:49:04,150 --> 00:49:01,550
another Bowl because I just want keep

1068
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:04,160
going and dipping their spoon into your

1069
00:49:07,810 --> 00:49:06,410
fear and chomping on it no guy who does

1070
00:49:11,740 --> 00:49:07,820
that paint a picture I think I should

1071
00:49:15,010 --> 00:49:11,750
but it's it's terrible it's terrible so

1072
00:49:16,930 --> 00:49:15,020
when you have any fear which is hard not

1073
00:49:20,550 --> 00:49:16,940
to have fear let me tell you let me tell

1074
00:49:24,100 --> 00:49:20,560
you I have been down the road of fear I

1075
00:49:26,170 --> 00:49:24,110
don't know if people can have ever been

1076
00:49:28,210 --> 00:49:26,180
as terrified as I have it's WellCare

1077
00:49:32,350 --> 00:49:28,220
bees got their own fear but I mean

1078
00:49:34,210 --> 00:49:32,360
imagine this I lived in a place and like

1079
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:34,220
I was dealing with shadow people shadow

1080
00:49:40,150 --> 00:49:36,890
spiders and you know aliens and whatever

1081
00:49:42,130 --> 00:49:40,160
it was crazy and I lived alone and I

1082
00:49:46,450 --> 00:49:42,140
lived in this what he called like a

1083
00:49:48,250 --> 00:49:46,460
four-plex type of apartment and if you

1084
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:48,260
take maybe three steps

1085
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:51,290
you got to the two steps that led down

1086
00:49:57,010 --> 00:49:53,690
to another platform to get out of my

1087
00:50:00,910 --> 00:49:57,020
apartment building right so all of four

1088
00:50:02,770 --> 00:50:00,920
steps maybe five to get out but in their

1089
00:50:04,630 --> 00:50:02,780
hallway the darn landlord would never

1090
00:50:08,110 --> 00:50:04,640
keep that darn light working in that

1091
00:50:08,770 --> 00:50:08,120
little hallway I could barely handle

1092
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:08,780
that

1093
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:12,050
darkness five steps in it five I was

1094
00:50:15,490 --> 00:50:13,610
horrified and terrified because I knew

1095
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:15,500
something lived in the dark and it was

1096
00:50:18,730 --> 00:50:16,970
just waiting for me to trip and slam

1097
00:50:21,550 --> 00:50:18,740
myself at the bottom of those little

1098
00:50:24,340 --> 00:50:21,560
stars and lay there equipping in less

1099
00:50:28,270 --> 00:50:24,350
than a big heap or something I had

1100
00:50:30,780 --> 00:50:28,280
terror I was scared and I had a friend

1101
00:50:33,940 --> 00:50:30,790
you know tell me something that really

1102
00:50:36,130 --> 00:50:33,950
changed a lot for me because I I have

1103
00:50:38,140 --> 00:50:36,140
the hardest time and just getting over

1104
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:38,150
that fear because I have us catching

1105
00:50:42,610 --> 00:50:40,250
things seeing things and things are

1106
00:50:44,020 --> 00:50:42,620
calling my name oh that sucks when it

1107
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:44,030
calls your name let me tell you you want

1108
00:50:52,830 --> 00:50:44,930
to talk about chills

1109
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:52,840
those are chills what the hell my name

1110
00:51:00,460 --> 00:50:57,290
horrible a real raspy named Heidi come

1111
00:51:03,820 --> 00:51:00,470
on so yeah I was terrified but this

1112
00:51:07,060 --> 00:51:03,830
friend told me Heidi you've got to get

1113
00:51:10,090 --> 00:51:07,070
rid of that fear and this is some kind

1114
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:10,100
of old wise saying from some ancient

1115
00:51:13,810 --> 00:51:11,810
somebody I don't know what that maybe

1116
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:13,820
Buddha I don't know who said it but it

1117
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:16,130
said when the student is ready the

1118
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:21,890
teacher will appear so I had to learn to

1119
00:51:25,090 --> 00:51:24,410
get rid of that fear of the dark how did

1120
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:25,100
I do that

1121
00:51:32,860 --> 00:51:31,040
well I stopped flying through that

1122
00:51:34,950 --> 00:51:32,870
little hallway that was one of my things

1123
00:51:39,460 --> 00:51:34,960
I'm like I need just breathe breathe

1124
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:39,470
take your time don't come flying through

1125
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:41,330
here it slamming into your door trying

1126
00:51:43,540 --> 00:51:42,890
to get the key out you know to give it

1127
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:43,550
in her eye

1128
00:51:49,870 --> 00:51:46,610
I learned to take a breath and walk

1129
00:51:52,510 --> 00:51:49,880
through it and get my key in there and

1130
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:52,520
then it was it was really kind of it was

1131
00:51:58,570 --> 00:51:54,410
really therapeutic for myself and I

1132
00:52:05,100 --> 00:51:58,580
learned to just deal with it and let it

1133
00:52:10,870 --> 00:52:05,110
go let it go I can't sing I was frozen

1134
00:52:14,350 --> 00:52:10,880
let it go everybody but I killed myself

1135
00:52:16,540 --> 00:52:14,360
anyways yeah so let it go don't don't

1136
00:52:19,450 --> 00:52:16,550
let that fear get to you Dennis you

1137
00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:19,460
really it's difficult I know but I'll

1138
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:22,250
tell you soon after I let

1139
00:52:29,170 --> 00:52:25,570
go of that that crazy fear that I had

1140
00:52:30,970 --> 00:52:29,180
and it wasn't like it was unjustified it

1141
00:52:32,590 --> 00:52:30,980
was because I was having crazy things

1142
00:52:35,410 --> 00:52:32,600
going on a lot of its in that book the

1143
00:52:38,140 --> 00:52:35,420
secret war so I was seeing some big

1144
00:52:42,190 --> 00:52:38,150
baddies nasty things just nasty mean

1145
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:42,200
Vicky yeah so and it's that's also the

1146
00:52:48,250 --> 00:52:45,290
apartment that I had shooed nine grey

1147
00:52:51,130 --> 00:52:48,260
aliens at him so I was just come on I

1148
00:52:55,300 --> 00:52:51,140
lived alone this is not cool but soon

1149
00:52:56,740 --> 00:52:55,310
after that I did have a teacher up here

1150
00:52:58,870 --> 00:52:56,750
who was it

1151
00:53:02,290 --> 00:52:58,880
well was somebody I was a huge skeptic

1152
00:53:07,780 --> 00:53:02,300
of huge skeptic oh and his name started

1153
00:53:10,090 --> 00:53:07,790
with Jesus Jesus Christ okay I was a

1154
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:10,100
skeptic of him having you know the power

1155
00:53:13,450 --> 00:53:12,050
to show up you know every psycho look

1156
00:53:15,190 --> 00:53:13,460
he's in my toast I'm gonna put the

1157
00:53:17,500 --> 00:53:15,200
butter on it now I mean it was just

1158
00:53:20,020 --> 00:53:17,510
ridiculous I'm like come on people Jews

1159
00:53:22,420 --> 00:53:20,030
not showing up he did his thing a couple

1160
00:53:26,530 --> 00:53:22,430
thousand years ago he's done now you got

1161
00:53:30,490 --> 00:53:26,540
the message it's done I was stunned and

1162
00:53:33,850 --> 00:53:30,500
still AM and enamored and changed

1163
00:53:36,310 --> 00:53:33,860
forever that he showed up and taught me

1164
00:53:39,310 --> 00:53:36,320
everything it's the only way that I'm

1165
00:53:41,470 --> 00:53:39,320
able to sit here and talk with some kind

1166
00:53:44,430 --> 00:53:41,480
of sense of normalcy am i normal

1167
00:53:49,300 --> 00:53:44,440
I don't know I really don't know but

1168
00:53:49,900 --> 00:53:49,310
it's the only way I had no guts for this

1169
00:53:53,470 --> 00:53:49,910
stuff

1170
00:53:56,620 --> 00:53:53,480
but I had to take that step I had to I

1171
00:53:59,080 --> 00:53:56,630
had to so as difficult as it may be for

1172
00:54:01,810 --> 00:53:59,090
you Dennis and many many many others out

1173
00:54:07,090 --> 00:54:01,820
there is to let that little that little

1174
00:54:13,060 --> 00:54:07,100
fear nymph or whatever go go see the

1175
00:54:16,540 --> 00:54:13,070
song rent the movie feel empowered learn

1176
00:54:18,910 --> 00:54:16,550
all the words let's just go with it

1177
00:54:21,130 --> 00:54:18,920
I understand the sleep paralysis stuff

1178
00:54:25,750 --> 00:54:21,140
is horrible I i'ma tell you a quick

1179
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:25,760
story and I had a friend who had like a

1180
00:54:31,240 --> 00:54:29,570
best friend who it was strange she was

1181
00:54:33,100 --> 00:54:31,250
kind of standoffish with me you know

1182
00:54:33,730 --> 00:54:33,110
when I first met her and it's like okay

1183
00:54:47,020 --> 00:54:33,740
and

1184
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:47,030
people that sets or they find relief or

1185
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:49,330
their joy you know it's just awkward

1186
00:54:55,210 --> 00:54:52,130
because I'm naturally flying high

1187
00:55:00,370 --> 00:54:55,220
anyways so I don't need that stuff and I

1188
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:00,380
don't get drunk jokes sometimes I do but

1189
00:55:05,770 --> 00:55:03,890
it's just so you know they laugh and

1190
00:55:08,710 --> 00:55:05,780
that's just I don't get it okay so

1191
00:55:10,270 --> 00:55:08,720
anyways um she was one of those types

1192
00:55:12,220 --> 00:55:10,280
and I was just like your friend as a

1193
00:55:16,329 --> 00:55:12,230
sloppy drunk what the heck is going on

1194
00:55:18,790 --> 00:55:16,339
here and it took some time but she

1195
00:55:21,310 --> 00:55:18,800
finally had a heart-to-heart with me you

1196
00:55:25,270 --> 00:55:21,320
know outside of you know my friend that

1197
00:55:27,970 --> 00:55:25,280
was her best friend and she's like I'll

1198
00:55:32,620 --> 00:55:27,980
tell you why I drink so much just said

1199
00:55:34,990 --> 00:55:32,630
every time I close my eyes every time I

1200
00:55:37,630 --> 00:55:35,000
lay down to sleep or if I'm just sitting

1201
00:55:42,930 --> 00:55:37,640
here and close my eyes she said I see

1202
00:55:46,660 --> 00:55:42,940
like gnashing menacing teeth monsters

1203
00:55:50,470 --> 00:55:46,670
demonic faces flesh being ripped by them

1204
00:55:55,300 --> 00:55:50,480
eating people she said I feel like I am

1205
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:55,310
looking into a window into hell and it

1206
00:56:01,300 --> 00:55:57,650
terrified her she was terrified

1207
00:56:03,910 --> 00:56:01,310
petrified sleep paralysis was 100

1208
00:56:07,060 --> 00:56:03,920
percent of the time and she never had

1209
00:56:11,470 --> 00:56:07,070
relief her only relief was to drink

1210
00:56:15,550 --> 00:56:11,480
herself until sloppy mess and Wow I felt

1211
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:15,560
bad for her I'm like what what why why

1212
00:56:20,530 --> 00:56:18,050
is this going on God why you know why

1213
00:56:22,390 --> 00:56:20,540
can't why can't she see you're gonna get

1214
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:22,400
out of this and it's it's easier said

1215
00:56:27,220 --> 00:56:24,530
than done you know for people that just

1216
00:56:29,050 --> 00:56:27,230
aren't looking even to a little slight

1217
00:56:31,240 --> 00:56:29,060
bit of faith they just see these

1218
00:56:34,180 --> 00:56:31,250
horrible demonic things and they're like

1219
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:34,190
this is so real I'm just captivated by

1220
00:56:39,820 --> 00:56:37,010
what's going on here look to your faith

1221
00:56:42,430 --> 00:56:39,830
people I just I don't get it I mean I I

1222
00:56:44,020 --> 00:56:42,440
do but then I don't because it's like

1223
00:56:45,820 --> 00:56:44,030
something is showing there's other

1224
00:56:47,370 --> 00:56:45,830
forces that be well know that there's

1225
00:56:49,410 --> 00:56:47,380
another force out there

1226
00:56:52,350 --> 00:56:49,420
and it's the only thing that can and

1227
00:56:54,990 --> 00:56:52,360
will have your back and that's God light

1228
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:55,000
and all that other good positive stuff

1229
00:56:59,580 --> 00:56:57,370
so Dennis I think you need to probably

1230
00:57:03,450 --> 00:56:59,590
look a little bit harder into your faith

1231
00:57:06,990 --> 00:57:03,460
just a bit have no doubts okay that's a

1232
00:57:09,930 --> 00:57:07,000
big one have no doubts about it and you

1233
00:57:12,300 --> 00:57:09,940
know bless your home don't call upon the

1234
00:57:14,820 --> 00:57:12,310
local priest to do it do it yourself

1235
00:57:16,350 --> 00:57:14,830
look it up see how you could do it and

1236
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:16,360
I'm not talking about getting some

1237
00:57:21,990 --> 00:57:18,130
incense I'm talking about a little holy

1238
00:57:24,330 --> 00:57:22,000
water and about oh no 15 20 minutes of

1239
00:57:26,100 --> 00:57:24,340
your time and get to pray and get the

1240
00:57:27,930 --> 00:57:26,110
blessing alrighty

1241
00:57:29,910 --> 00:57:27,940
Dennis thank you so much for your email

1242
00:57:52,339 --> 00:57:29,920
and we're gonna go to our next break

1243
00:58:07,140 --> 00:57:56,339
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nine one nine two three five five Oh

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01:02:33,550 --> 01:02:31,730
tonight is fun I like talking to you

1327
01:02:35,620 --> 01:02:33,560
guys and I like reading your emails so I

1328
01:02:38,470 --> 01:02:35,630
think it makes for the more interesting

1329
01:02:40,750 --> 01:02:38,480
stories because you're so authentic so

1330
01:02:42,490 --> 01:02:40,760
heartfelt and you know it's just real

1331
01:02:46,690 --> 01:02:42,500
you know it's just me and you talking

1332
01:02:49,030 --> 01:02:46,700
it's all good right all right so I am

1333
01:02:51,250 --> 01:02:49,040
going to get to the next email it says

1334
01:02:53,020 --> 01:02:51,260
dear Heidi that's me I just wanted to

1335
01:02:54,700 --> 01:02:53,030
drop you a quick line to let you know

1336
01:02:57,660 --> 01:02:54,710
that I really enjoyed your interviews

1337
01:03:00,100 --> 01:02:57,670
okay you were really delightful woke

1338
01:03:01,810 --> 01:03:00,110
more than a few times I broke into a

1339
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:01,820
good chuckle when you recounted your

1340
01:03:06,670 --> 01:03:04,250
stories I absolutely love your sense of

1341
01:03:08,710 --> 01:03:06,680
humor well yay keep doing what you're

1342
01:03:10,630 --> 01:03:08,720
doing I felt a deep sense of knowing

1343
01:03:12,850 --> 01:03:10,640
that you understand what is going on

1344
01:03:16,060 --> 01:03:12,860
around us and I'm sure that your work is

1345
01:03:20,890 --> 01:03:16,070
helping many sincerely Francine Victoria

1346
01:03:24,730 --> 01:03:20,900
British Columbia what's so sweet thank

1347
01:03:26,980 --> 01:03:24,740
you really nice my goodness I am so

1348
01:03:30,550 --> 01:03:26,990
abused here at inception radio I'm just

1349
01:03:32,050 --> 01:03:30,560
kidding I have a good time here we got a

1350
01:03:34,390 --> 01:03:32,060
really really really good listening

1351
01:03:37,330 --> 01:03:34,400
audience well what 250,000 listeners or

1352
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:37,340
so so it's really cool to know that

1353
01:03:42,010 --> 01:03:39,530
something is helping and I hope people

1354
01:03:46,330 --> 01:03:42,020
aren't like check it out of the show

1355
01:03:48,100 --> 01:03:46,340
just because I said that we're trying to

1356
01:03:50,820 --> 01:03:48,110
make a difference here people they

1357
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:50,830
really are so I'm gonna go to the next

1358
01:03:56,910 --> 01:03:54,650
email because time goes so fast and

1359
01:04:00,040 --> 01:03:56,920
we're having fun doesn't it dear Heidi

1360
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:00,050
I've recently been seeing and having a

1361
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:01,610
lot of encounters with these shadow

1362
01:04:08,170 --> 01:04:05,210
people and the hat man it started

1363
01:04:08,710 --> 01:04:08,180
September 10th of this year wow that's

1364
01:04:10,570 --> 01:04:08,720
crazy

1365
01:04:12,190 --> 01:04:10,580
there was a hunch shadowy figure in my

1366
01:04:14,410 --> 01:04:12,200
kitchen when I went to get a drink and

1367
01:04:16,510 --> 01:04:14,420
he was definitely larger than my ceiling

1368
01:04:18,310 --> 01:04:16,520
yeah and that great that's how many

1369
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:18,320
hitting his head and you said after this

1370
01:04:23,079 --> 01:04:20,690
sighting I felt something tug at my

1371
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:23,089
phones when I was in bed I wanted to

1372
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:25,490
first ask if they can physically harm

1373
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:28,250
you because after I woke up I had a bad

1374
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:31,730
leg for the day can animals sense them

1375
01:04:36,220 --> 01:04:34,490
my dog started growling and my cats

1376
01:04:38,079 --> 01:04:36,230
meowing whenever he's let out of the

1377
01:04:40,839 --> 01:04:38,089
bathroom at night they never showed up

1378
01:04:44,230 --> 01:04:40,849
when the cat was out of the bathroom huh

1379
01:04:47,230 --> 01:04:44,240
I also tried talking to one who was

1380
01:04:50,470 --> 01:04:47,240
staring at the TV at night and I said

1381
01:04:53,319 --> 01:04:50,480
hello and he looked at me oh heck no I'd

1382
01:04:56,050 --> 01:04:53,329
be gone right there he seemed to

1383
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:56,060
acknowledge me before disappearing as

1384
01:04:59,319 --> 01:04:57,170
for the Hat man

1385
01:05:01,839 --> 01:04:59,329
I saw him during one of my classes at

1386
01:05:05,230 --> 01:05:01,849
high school he acknowledged me with a

1387
01:05:09,730 --> 01:05:05,240
slight look and a nod before sort of

1388
01:05:12,130 --> 01:05:09,740
walking down stairs into the ground I'm

1389
01:05:14,319 --> 01:05:12,140
not sure what to do if they're if they

1390
01:05:16,359 --> 01:05:14,329
continue showing up and no one else in

1391
01:05:20,710 --> 01:05:16,369
my family has seen him as far as I know

1392
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:20,720
of any thank you for reading this Sara

1393
01:05:29,530 --> 01:05:25,730
well Sara Sara holy smokes

1394
01:05:32,890 --> 01:05:29,540
all I can say to you is that sucks it

1395
01:05:35,410 --> 01:05:32,900
sucks it's scary I'm sorry can these

1396
01:05:39,309 --> 01:05:35,420
guys hurt you yeah mm-hmm they sure can

1397
01:05:42,190 --> 01:05:39,319
they like to punch scratch choke push

1398
01:05:44,650 --> 01:05:42,200
people yeah they'd be careful around

1399
01:05:46,089 --> 01:05:44,660
stairs with some of them um no what else

1400
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:46,099
do they like to do Oh

1401
01:05:50,530 --> 01:05:47,930
you know what's interesting you said of

1402
01:05:52,750 --> 01:05:50,540
how he walked down these like invisible

1403
01:05:55,089 --> 01:05:52,760
stairs you know that is something that

1404
01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:55,099
I've heard for the hatman like he's

1405
01:05:59,319 --> 01:05:57,770
there and then he just kind of goes down

1406
01:06:02,940 --> 01:05:59,329
like he's walking down some stairs like

1407
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:02,950
dude do do do do to do what his dad I

1408
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:05,210
mean was there a staircase there before

1409
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:06,770
or did he just bill or I don't know

1410
01:06:13,500 --> 01:06:10,130
maybe he's real quick I don't know it's

1411
01:06:17,230 --> 01:06:13,510
it's really really kind of strange but a

1412
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:17,240
very common thing that you said how he

1413
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:20,810
acknowledges people with a nod and a tip

1414
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:24,770
of the hat it is so like you know when

1415
01:06:30,370 --> 01:06:27,130
you try to motion to people like hey

1416
01:06:31,930 --> 01:06:30,380
it's like his thing like that's right

1417
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:31,940
buddy I see yeah uh-huh

1418
01:06:37,359 --> 01:06:34,010
hi how are you I'm the hat man

1419
01:06:39,250 --> 01:06:37,369
uh-huh senior that's horrible I would

1420
01:06:41,349 --> 01:06:39,260
it's like the Johnny Carson nod that you

1421
01:06:45,579 --> 01:06:41,359
don't want to get you know Johnny Carson

1422
01:06:47,230 --> 01:06:45,589
would say you you're gonna be a star you

1423
01:06:47,829 --> 01:06:47,240
don't want him to do that that's all I'm

1424
01:06:49,450 --> 01:06:47,839
gonna say

1425
01:06:51,069 --> 01:06:49,460
so he's acknowledging that you're

1426
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:51,079
acknowledging and that's horrible and

1427
01:06:54,549 --> 01:06:52,490
I'm sorry that it's only happening to

1428
01:06:55,630 --> 01:06:54,559
you well no it's best that it's not

1429
01:06:57,309 --> 01:06:55,640
something he's just running in the

1430
01:07:00,670 --> 01:06:57,319
family because that's horrible and it's

1431
01:07:03,220 --> 01:07:00,680
kind of hard to shake but you're asking

1432
01:07:04,809 --> 01:07:03,230
the physical harm hurting your leg yeah

1433
01:07:07,210 --> 01:07:04,819
I've heard it people say you know where

1434
01:07:09,730 --> 01:07:07,220
he touched a person or something it

1435
01:07:12,309 --> 01:07:09,740
hurts it's really really really bizarre

1436
01:07:15,339 --> 01:07:12,319
and I don't know how or why and yes

1437
01:07:20,230 --> 01:07:15,349
animals can sense them animals are the

1438
01:07:23,109 --> 01:07:20,240
first to leave you hanging a piece out

1439
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:23,119
Master I just saw something I'm gonna

1440
01:07:27,849 --> 01:07:25,010
growl real quick and I'm going under the

1441
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:27,859
bed that's kind of how some of them do

1442
01:07:31,210 --> 01:07:29,930
and they were there forever changed some

1443
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:31,220
of them it's so traumatic to see these

1444
01:07:35,049 --> 01:07:33,650
things is really horrible so yeah yeah

1445
01:07:38,079 --> 01:07:35,059
so I want to thank you Sara

1446
01:07:40,359 --> 01:07:38,089
so much for writing that was it was a

1447
01:07:41,890 --> 01:07:40,369
nice little quick little email and I've

1448
01:07:43,870 --> 01:07:41,900
got another caller

1449
01:07:48,190 --> 01:07:43,880
I've got dick from Oregon hey there dick

1450
01:07:52,049 --> 01:07:48,200
how are you pretty good hi guys

1451
01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:52,059
life is fantastic that's all I could say

1452
01:08:00,940 --> 01:07:57,410
that's great it's good here in Oregon is

1453
01:08:11,410 --> 01:08:00,950
green oh yeah over here if things are

1454
01:08:14,950 --> 01:08:11,420
looking horrible and cold anyway this is

1455
01:08:18,550 --> 01:08:14,960
uh several years ago listening to him I

1456
01:08:21,340 --> 01:08:18,560
know here years ago I can hear you two

1457
01:08:23,950 --> 01:08:21,350
several years ago I was uh going to

1458
01:08:25,450 --> 01:08:23,960
divorce with my wife but we were living

1459
01:08:29,919 --> 01:08:25,460
in the same house I was a little

1460
01:08:34,450 --> 01:08:29,929
uncomfortable but I was delegated to

1461
01:08:39,370 --> 01:08:34,460
another bedroom of course and one night

1462
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:39,380
I woke up about 2:00 a.m. and I was

1463
01:08:43,450 --> 01:08:41,690
laying in this I thought was a bedroom

1464
01:08:46,329 --> 01:08:43,460
that I was in but apparently really

1465
01:08:47,919 --> 01:08:46,339
wasn't it was somewhere else and I was

1466
01:08:52,620 --> 01:08:47,929
surrounded by like three or four

1467
01:08:59,200 --> 01:08:52,630
those little Grady's with the big eyes

1468
01:09:03,010 --> 01:08:59,210
and then a larger larger et I think the

1469
01:09:06,519 --> 01:09:03,020
one that looks like a insect type of

1470
01:09:08,979 --> 01:09:06,529
creature praying mantis anyway yeah yeah

1471
01:09:11,169 --> 01:09:08,989
I woke up the reason why I woke up is

1472
01:09:15,970 --> 01:09:11,179
because I had a scruciating pain in my

1473
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:15,980
forehead and the best way to describe it

1474
01:09:21,189 --> 01:09:19,130
is it was like a an alien like a

1475
01:09:24,490 --> 01:09:21,199
download like you download a computer

1476
01:09:26,919 --> 01:09:24,500
program mm-hmm it was somehow there was

1477
01:09:30,189 --> 01:09:26,929
a an alien presence was trying to

1478
01:09:32,110 --> 01:09:30,199
download into my brain and I had a

1479
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:32,120
really fight hard to Varennes from

1480
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:35,449
happen and I'm sure was just a program

1481
01:09:41,169 --> 01:09:38,690
of some type to you know to make a

1482
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:41,179
person believe that they're they're

1483
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:44,170
being controlled by another alien source

1484
01:09:54,060 --> 01:09:48,290
so I yelled out a big No and all of a

1485
01:09:57,540 --> 01:09:54,070
sudden everything was blackened and I

1486
01:10:02,350 --> 01:09:57,550
still notice to this day though that

1487
01:10:05,620 --> 01:10:02,360
that alien presence that might have been

1488
01:10:09,010 --> 01:10:05,630
incomplete in the in its download it

1489
01:10:10,959 --> 01:10:09,020
still remains in there but I was a I'm

1490
01:10:14,620 --> 01:10:10,969
just I'm able to fight it off at all

1491
01:10:19,570 --> 01:10:14,630
times and but I'm sure it's just a

1492
01:10:20,470 --> 01:10:19,580
program and it's probably a way that the

1493
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:20,480
the aliens

1494
01:10:28,270 --> 01:10:23,449
BET's are trying to probably control

1495
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:28,280
humanity right by utilizing a program

1496
01:10:35,470 --> 01:10:31,810
that makes a person feel like they're an

1497
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:35,480
alien in a human body but the truth of

1498
01:10:40,870 --> 01:10:38,449
the matter is it's just a program anyway

1499
01:10:42,010 --> 01:10:40,880
the following morning about wacky four

1500
01:10:47,590 --> 01:10:42,020
o'clock the next morning

1501
01:10:49,709 --> 01:10:47,600
I was I just woke up with a start and my

1502
01:10:53,590 --> 01:10:49,719
face all of a sudden was sprayed with

1503
01:10:55,990 --> 01:10:53,600
some sort of liquid mist and for the

1504
01:11:00,100 --> 01:10:56,000
next twenty hours I was on the most wild

1505
01:11:01,570 --> 01:11:00,110
Hallucigenia trip ever I'm like 63 years

1506
01:11:04,090 --> 01:11:01,580
old and I cried Oh

1507
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:04,100
I tried LSD a few other those mine

1508
01:11:11,230 --> 01:11:07,930
altering drugs of course not even longer

1509
01:11:15,670 --> 01:11:11,240
and it's just it's just incredible for

1510
01:11:20,860 --> 01:11:15,680
20 hours the visions that our going

1511
01:11:26,020 --> 01:11:20,870
through my mind that I just want people

1512
01:11:29,170 --> 01:11:26,030
to realize that it's just a program if

1513
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:29,180
you try hard enough you can overcome

1514
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:32,210
that program they may have enhanced a

1515
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:36,730
bunch of human traits and stuff but I

1516
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:39,170
just want people to realize that if they

1517
01:11:44,890 --> 01:11:41,810
try hard enough they'll find their inner

1518
01:11:47,590 --> 01:11:44,900
soul so did you feel like they were

1519
01:11:51,690 --> 01:11:47,600
trying to pull your strings and you had

1520
01:11:56,140 --> 01:11:51,700
to resist when this download took place

1521
01:11:59,410 --> 01:11:56,150
exactly just like that Heidi not you're

1522
01:12:05,800 --> 01:11:59,420
just amazingly psychic or knowledgeable

1523
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:05,810
perhaps but any other questions you know

1524
01:12:11,830 --> 01:12:09,530
it's yeah many many years ago back in

1525
01:12:14,490 --> 01:12:11,840
the 90s but there's been other events

1526
01:12:17,140 --> 01:12:14,500
that have taken place since then but it

1527
01:12:21,870 --> 01:12:17,150
seems like at the constant battle to you

1528
01:12:28,620 --> 01:12:21,880
of this download that was attempted I

1529
01:12:32,740 --> 01:12:28,630
think it's being utilized to in some way

1530
01:12:37,050 --> 01:12:32,750
fool people to convince people that

1531
01:12:39,820 --> 01:12:37,060
they're you know that they're perhaps

1532
01:12:42,700 --> 01:12:39,830
that they're something other than that

1533
01:12:45,550 --> 01:12:42,710
when what they really are great you know

1534
01:12:48,970 --> 01:12:45,560
what that computer what I've realized

1535
01:12:52,150 --> 01:12:48,980
when it came to like some of these alien

1536
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:52,160
entities and whatnot coming coming my

1537
01:12:58,060 --> 01:12:54,170
way even though they did not get to

1538
01:12:59,890 --> 01:12:58,070
abduct me I which I'm happy it says if

1539
01:13:01,300 --> 01:12:59,900
they're whispering in your ear you can't

1540
01:13:02,980 --> 01:13:01,310
move you can't move you can't move but

1541
01:13:05,470 --> 01:13:02,990
the second you realize hey this guy's

1542
01:13:08,020 --> 01:13:05,480
just whispering I can't move you realize

1543
01:13:09,940 --> 01:13:08,030
then that you can move they are not the

1544
01:13:11,770 --> 01:13:09,950
ones that controls all right that's

1545
01:13:15,250 --> 01:13:11,780
awesome that you realize that earlier I

1546
01:13:20,020 --> 01:13:15,260
know you exactly you have the control

1547
01:13:21,340 --> 01:13:20,030
yeah you are in control you know also

1548
01:13:26,950 --> 01:13:21,350
kept hearing uh

1549
01:13:29,500 --> 01:13:26,960
I was really bizarre like several nights

1550
01:13:37,420 --> 01:13:29,510
afterwards if I listen closely I could

1551
01:13:39,940 --> 01:13:37,430
hear these three words I love you I'm

1552
01:13:44,350 --> 01:13:39,950
not sure it was just repeating back and

1553
01:13:46,270 --> 01:13:44,360
you know throughout the night you think

1554
01:13:49,590 --> 01:13:46,280
they're trying to convince you that look

1555
01:13:52,870 --> 01:13:49,600
we're here for your own good

1556
01:13:55,090 --> 01:13:52,880
yeah well it could be but you know it

1557
01:13:58,570 --> 01:13:55,100
doesn't seem like there's much good

1558
01:14:01,720 --> 01:13:58,580
going on in the world out I mean if the

1559
01:14:04,510 --> 01:14:01,730
world has in many many ways has not

1560
01:14:06,130 --> 01:14:04,520
progressed it's gone backwards I mean

1561
01:14:08,979 --> 01:14:06,140
you can see all the violence at the

1562
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:08,989
Sandy Hook and all these yeah school

1563
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:11,330
killings and stuff I don't what the hell

1564
01:14:15,310 --> 01:14:13,970
is that going on out there yeah I can't

1565
01:14:19,630 --> 01:14:15,320
get it straight if they're gonna do a

1566
01:14:23,290 --> 01:14:19,640
download and go through all the all this

1567
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:23,300
for what purpose other than you know I

1568
01:14:30,250 --> 01:14:25,489
mean what's the use

1569
01:14:32,140 --> 01:14:30,260
yeah I hear you know it just doesn't

1570
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:32,150
make that much sense like something's

1571
01:14:35,740 --> 01:14:34,010
gotta give and you know I'm a big

1572
01:14:37,390 --> 01:14:35,750
advocate that these things are trying to

1573
01:14:41,110 --> 01:14:37,400
pull our strings and not for our own

1574
01:14:43,540 --> 01:14:41,120
good and this isn't theory this isn't

1575
01:14:46,030 --> 01:14:43,550
their planet so I want to thank you so

1576
01:14:58,090 --> 01:14:46,040
much for giving us a call in that was

1577
01:15:00,520 --> 01:14:58,100
awesome you know it would it would be

1578
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:00,530
fun to go to Oregon I think it's a

1579
01:15:04,930 --> 01:15:02,570
beautiful state and you know I'm meeting

1580
01:15:07,450 --> 01:15:04,940
so many cool people all over the place

1581
01:15:10,570 --> 01:15:07,460
so it's it's nice to meet another person

1582
01:15:18,970 --> 01:15:10,580
that really gets into these topics so

1583
01:15:22,750 --> 01:15:18,980
you okay Wow okay everybody so we are

1584
01:15:24,700 --> 01:15:22,760
moving on we've got a toasting that's

1585
01:15:26,590 --> 01:15:24,710
very interesting so I've got another

1586
01:15:27,839 --> 01:15:26,600
email oh my goodness this is let's see

1587
01:15:29,970 --> 01:15:27,849
how big this one is

1588
01:15:32,879 --> 01:15:29,980
okay this isn't Depok this is dear Heidi

1589
01:15:35,430 --> 01:15:32,889
a friend showed me shadow people or

1590
01:15:38,370 --> 01:15:35,440
hatman just today after a story I told

1591
01:15:40,319 --> 01:15:38,380
her for a long time I didn't admit it

1592
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:40,329
happen but then a year ago I spoke to my

1593
01:15:45,959 --> 01:15:42,010
brother and we recollected and

1594
01:15:49,229 --> 01:15:45,969
occurrence currents okay I am 33 years

1595
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:49,239
old now I was 9 and my brother was 4 and

1596
01:15:56,129 --> 01:15:52,690
a half at the time we were alone at home

1597
01:15:59,040 --> 01:15:56,139
in our apartment in Serbia and Belgrade

1598
01:16:01,439 --> 01:15:59,050
well okay we were in our parents bed

1599
01:16:03,419 --> 01:16:01,449
watching TV behind the TV was the

1600
01:16:05,819 --> 01:16:03,429
balcony we lived in the second floor and

1601
01:16:09,419 --> 01:16:05,829
there was no possible access to the

1602
01:16:10,770 --> 01:16:09,429
balcony unless someone was flying all of

1603
01:16:13,050 --> 01:16:10,780
a sudden there was a really bright

1604
01:16:15,149 --> 01:16:13,060
blinding white light coming from outside

1605
01:16:20,339 --> 01:16:15,159
and there was a tall dark shadow

1606
01:16:24,030 --> 01:16:20,349
appearing from the light yaksa that's

1607
01:16:26,149 --> 01:16:24,040
scary we could clearly see the Hat he

1608
01:16:29,490 --> 01:16:26,159
just stood there we both got really

1609
01:16:32,220 --> 01:16:29,500
scared I don't know what happened after

1610
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:32,230
or for how long I just know that the

1611
01:16:36,300 --> 01:16:34,090
fear was unbearable

1612
01:16:38,750 --> 01:16:36,310
before that as a child I used to see

1613
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:38,760
different shadows in different places

1614
01:16:44,069 --> 01:16:41,650
usually when I would go to bed and I

1615
01:16:46,319 --> 01:16:44,079
used to frighten me that was the reason

1616
01:16:48,060 --> 01:16:46,329
I was so afraid of the dark I always

1617
01:16:51,180 --> 01:16:48,070
slept with the lights on I believe after

1618
01:16:53,339 --> 01:16:51,190
the last incident I got so scared that I

1619
01:16:55,069 --> 01:16:53,349
blocked it out and it never happened

1620
01:16:58,109 --> 01:16:55,079
again at least not that I can remember

1621
01:17:00,060 --> 01:16:58,119
we both just became very afraid of

1622
01:17:02,250 --> 01:17:00,070
lightning as it reminded us of that

1623
01:17:06,419 --> 01:17:02,260
occurrence which I didn't realize until

1624
01:17:08,879 --> 01:17:06,429
I started connecting the dots I am not

1625
01:17:10,740 --> 01:17:08,889
sure whether there was a spell that was

1626
01:17:13,290 --> 01:17:10,750
put upon us in order to collect energy

1627
01:17:15,359 --> 01:17:13,300
of fear from us or there was something

1628
01:17:17,700 --> 01:17:15,369
that was taken from us as I am very

1629
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:17,710
intuitive it could work with energies I

1630
01:17:22,140 --> 01:17:20,050
just thought to share a story and I will

1631
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:22,150
research this matter extensively in the

1632
01:17:29,839 --> 01:17:26,770
future regards milena milena all the way

1633
01:17:32,729 --> 01:17:29,849
from Serbia and Belgrade old Yugoslavia

1634
01:17:37,290 --> 01:17:32,739
holy smokes

1635
01:17:41,250 --> 01:17:37,300
that is wild so you know a lot of people

1636
01:17:42,839 --> 01:17:41,260
there like like I hear

1637
01:17:46,799 --> 01:17:42,849
it's like it's only here in the United

1638
01:17:51,509 --> 01:17:46,809
States no this guy and this darkness is

1639
01:17:54,689 --> 01:17:51,519
covering the planet that is absolutely

1640
01:17:56,790 --> 01:17:54,699
scary and you know I know that a lot of

1641
01:17:59,430 --> 01:17:56,800
people that experience these things they

1642
01:18:01,470 --> 01:17:59,440
get so absolutely terrified and

1643
01:18:02,339 --> 01:18:01,480
petrified of such a thing happening to

1644
01:18:05,069 --> 01:18:02,349
them even though it might have happened

1645
01:18:06,779 --> 01:18:05,079
just once it like haunts them for the

1646
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:06,789
rest of their life they are so scared

1647
01:18:10,740 --> 01:18:08,650
that it's gonna happen again

1648
01:18:14,129 --> 01:18:10,750
and it's like I feel so bad that's like

1649
01:18:19,350 --> 01:18:14,139
you know shall I sing the frozen song

1650
01:18:20,850 --> 01:18:19,360
again no but really let it go it's like

1651
01:18:24,209 --> 01:18:20,860
it happened it was horrible

1652
01:18:27,569 --> 01:18:24,219
you know I can't imagine what it would

1653
01:18:30,740 --> 01:18:27,579
be like if I had to recount and feel the

1654
01:18:36,569 --> 01:18:30,750
threat of this thing potentially coming

1655
01:18:39,509 --> 01:18:36,579
to me forever you're 33 you are 33 and

1656
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:39,519
this happened when you were 9 you've

1657
01:18:47,399 --> 01:18:42,130
been thinking about this all these years

1658
01:18:49,529 --> 01:18:47,409
I mean wow that's a long time to be

1659
01:18:51,390 --> 01:18:49,539
petrified and worried that this may

1660
01:18:54,270 --> 01:18:51,400
happen again though you blocked it out I

1661
01:18:56,129 --> 01:18:54,280
just thought you know I hope that people

1662
01:18:58,439 --> 01:18:56,139
who are listening to this story realize

1663
01:18:59,700 --> 01:18:58,449
it's like oh that's a stretch yeah but

1664
01:19:01,649 --> 01:18:59,710
did something happen to you when you're

1665
01:19:04,890 --> 01:19:01,659
a kid and yet it terrified you and you

1666
01:19:07,799 --> 01:19:04,900
just you know are fearful of these

1667
01:19:09,419 --> 01:19:07,809
things but you don't so that you're very

1668
01:19:10,620 --> 01:19:09,429
intuitive and you can work with energies

1669
01:19:11,819 --> 01:19:10,630
and stuff it seems like people that are

1670
01:19:15,209 --> 01:19:11,829
sensitive to things like that

1671
01:19:16,979 --> 01:19:15,219
do experience these things and are aware

1672
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:16,989
that these things are lingering and so

1673
01:19:23,129 --> 01:19:21,610
therefore they are very much worried

1674
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:23,139
because they know these things could be

1675
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:25,090
out there but you know it's it's not

1676
01:19:27,839 --> 01:19:26,650
uncommon for people to associate you

1677
01:19:29,700 --> 01:19:27,849
know if lightning was going on when it

1678
01:19:33,779 --> 01:19:29,710
experiences things is that what your

1679
01:19:37,020 --> 01:19:33,789
lightning again it get scared again it

1680
01:19:41,189 --> 01:19:37,030
happens it happens I understand so

1681
01:19:44,189 --> 01:19:41,199
milena from Serbia old Yugoslavia and

1682
01:19:47,009 --> 01:19:44,199
Belgrade I want to thank you for writing

1683
01:19:48,450 --> 01:19:47,019
that's um that's that's interesting I

1684
01:19:50,490 --> 01:19:48,460
don't get I don't get many people from

1685
01:19:52,799 --> 01:19:50,500
over there but I do get some alright I

1686
01:19:54,660 --> 01:19:52,809
want to try squeeze this last one in it

1687
01:19:56,430 --> 01:19:54,670
says dear Heidi I

1688
01:19:58,350 --> 01:19:56,440
I'm so looking forward to digging into

1689
01:20:01,740 --> 01:19:58,360
your books well cool that's awesome I

1690
01:20:04,140 --> 01:20:01,750
wonder which ones from the age of five

1691
01:20:07,380 --> 01:20:04,150
I've experienced paranormal events come

1692
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:07,390
to find out it's a family trait he does

1693
01:20:10,979 --> 01:20:09,010
something and family hit this dent a

1694
01:20:14,250 --> 01:20:10,989
rotten good-for-nothing I'm just kidding

1695
01:20:15,930 --> 01:20:14,260
the one that stands up the most is one

1696
01:20:18,510 --> 01:20:15,940
night when I was living with my aunt I

1697
01:20:20,939 --> 01:20:18,520
had gone to bed it seems like I had

1698
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:20,949
hardly turned off the lights and crawled

1699
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:24,010
into bed and the shadow of a dark man

1700
01:20:28,380 --> 01:20:26,290
comes out of my closet walking towards

1701
01:20:32,669 --> 01:20:28,390
me why is this dude hanging out in

1702
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:32,679
closets yeah we gotta start taping these

1703
01:20:38,580 --> 01:20:35,170
closets at night or some I didn't even

1704
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:38,590
seem to think to make a noise more like

1705
01:20:42,959 --> 01:20:41,290
I was in a paralyzed awake stage that's

1706
01:20:45,540 --> 01:20:42,969
called sleep paralysis like strange

1707
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:45,550
people like to say anyways the Hat

1708
01:20:52,650 --> 01:20:48,489
seemed to stand out to me I don't know

1709
01:20:54,900 --> 01:20:52,660
why he walked over oh oh this sucks he

1710
01:20:58,229 --> 01:20:54,910
walked over and covered my nose and

1711
01:21:02,010 --> 01:20:58,239
mouth and the next thing I know I was

1712
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:02,020
out what he smothered you to

1713
01:21:05,850 --> 01:21:03,010
unconsciousness

1714
01:21:07,530 --> 01:21:05,860
she's so when did somebody ask if this

1715
01:21:09,300 --> 01:21:07,540
guy could hurt you well that's that's

1716
01:21:11,189 --> 01:21:09,310
pretty horrible I don't know what I

1717
01:21:13,620 --> 01:21:11,199
would do I'm paralyzed somebody pinches

1718
01:21:16,350 --> 01:21:13,630
my nose close and covers my mouth and I

1719
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:16,360
pass out geez ah

1720
01:21:21,330 --> 01:21:18,489
I woke the following morning like

1721
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:21,340
nothing had happened now going on fifty

1722
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:23,650
years old it seems still so fresh in my

1723
01:21:28,830 --> 01:21:27,010
mind as if I just lipped it two years

1724
01:21:29,850 --> 01:21:28,840
later I moved back into my mother's home

1725
01:21:32,939 --> 01:21:29,860
only to start

1726
01:21:35,700 --> 01:21:32,949
years of sexual abuse for men in one

1727
01:21:40,580 --> 01:21:35,710
manner or another I thought these were

1728
01:21:47,250 --> 01:21:44,459
but now I'm wondering if this so-called

1729
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:47,260
hat man hasn't been behind the influence

1730
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:50,290
of those actions I'm so thrilled to know

1731
01:21:56,430 --> 01:21:52,690
you have a Christian base because my

1732
01:21:59,669 --> 01:21:56,440
faith has been hard to share my empathy

1733
01:22:01,590 --> 01:21:59,679
traits and experiences in fear of

1734
01:22:04,110 --> 01:22:01,600
backlash from my Christian brothers and

1735
01:22:06,570 --> 01:22:04,120
sisters that's a shame

1736
01:22:08,430 --> 01:22:06,580
but I truly know wearing my full godly

1737
01:22:11,959 --> 01:22:08,440
armor and living a clean

1738
01:22:16,500 --> 01:22:11,969
sober life has kept the darkness to obey

1739
01:22:18,540 --> 01:22:16,510
Amen sister thanks for giving a forum to

1740
01:22:23,459 --> 01:22:18,550
share my story well and this is

1741
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:23,469
anonymous well holy smokes that's Wow

1742
01:22:29,010 --> 01:22:26,530
you know what a powerfully short email

1743
01:22:31,500 --> 01:22:29,020
but that says so much that really says

1744
01:22:34,890 --> 01:22:31,510
so much you know and it's interesting

1745
01:22:36,209 --> 01:22:34,900
that you recognize potentially that you

1746
01:22:38,010 --> 01:22:36,219
know the men that were abusing you in

1747
01:22:40,590 --> 01:22:38,020
your life may have been influenced by

1748
01:22:45,990 --> 01:22:40,600
darkness but you know what that's no

1749
01:22:49,050 --> 01:22:46,000
excuse they listen to it whose fault is

1750
01:22:51,209 --> 01:22:49,060
that just the darkness mm-hmm the devil

1751
01:22:52,590 --> 01:22:51,219
made me do it well guess what the devil

1752
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:52,600
Stern talked to all of us but not all of

1753
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:54,850
us you know going you know to such

1754
01:23:01,830 --> 01:22:57,010
horrid things and you know and just so

1755
01:23:05,100 --> 01:23:01,840
you know to I think I don't know what

1756
01:23:10,740 --> 01:23:05,110
the with the percentages but I mean so

1757
01:23:14,070 --> 01:23:10,750
many of my female friends it's it's less

1758
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:14,080
common less common that they have not

1759
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:17,770
been abused in a sexual manner isn't

1760
01:23:22,890 --> 01:23:20,530
that something and horrible it just I

1761
01:23:25,170 --> 01:23:22,900
don't know it's like seven out of ten

1762
01:23:30,030 --> 01:23:25,180
eight out of ten in some form have been

1763
01:23:32,850 --> 01:23:30,040
sexually abused by men that's horrible

1764
01:23:34,500 --> 01:23:32,860
it's crazy so are they all just

1765
01:23:36,330 --> 01:23:34,510
listening to the devil or listening to

1766
01:23:38,490 --> 01:23:36,340
something else okay well I don't know

1767
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:38,500
either way it's perverted and it's wrong

1768
01:23:43,110 --> 01:23:40,810
and there's no excuse for it you know

1769
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:43,120
darkness or not happening or not you

1770
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:45,130
know it's like look look at your soul

1771
01:23:50,910 --> 01:23:49,210
and think hmm it's my soul doing this

1772
01:23:55,290 --> 01:23:50,920
horrible thing I don't know but people

1773
01:23:58,439 --> 01:23:55,300
really come on but gosh this experience

1774
01:24:00,630 --> 01:23:58,449
that you had it was such a horrific

1775
01:24:02,310 --> 01:24:00,640
thing he placed his hand over your nose

1776
01:24:08,310 --> 01:24:02,320
and mouth and then you were a knocked

1777
01:24:10,110 --> 01:24:08,320
out it's it's so odd to say but there

1778
01:24:12,750 --> 01:24:10,120
are certain experiences that I've had

1779
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:12,760
that I read the paranormal nature that

1780
01:24:18,300 --> 01:24:15,370
have been so shattering to me they're so

1781
01:24:20,490 --> 01:24:18,310
fresh on my mind that it is as if it

1782
01:24:22,730 --> 01:24:20,500
just happened and you know this is this

1783
01:24:25,440 --> 01:24:22,740
is one thing that

1784
01:24:29,070 --> 01:24:25,450
blows my mind you know with people who

1785
01:24:30,810 --> 01:24:29,080
have experienced things Oh in a

1786
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:30,820
sleep-like state and they're told oh

1787
01:24:36,660 --> 01:24:33,690
that's just a that's just a nightmare a

1788
01:24:40,020 --> 01:24:36,670
nightmare doesn't stay with you for a

1789
01:24:41,250 --> 01:24:40,030
lifetime that's how you tell the

1790
01:24:45,150 --> 01:24:41,260
difference between what's real and what

1791
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:45,160
isn't a nightmare we have thousands of

1792
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:48,730
dreams potentially a year thousands but

1793
01:24:53,190 --> 01:24:52,210
that one from 30 years ago remember like

1794
01:24:56,460 --> 01:24:53,200
it was yesterday

1795
01:24:59,180 --> 01:24:56,470
I would say it's not a nightmare I would

1796
01:25:01,950 --> 01:24:59,190
say there's a whole lot more to it and

1797
01:25:02,940 --> 01:25:01,960
anonymous person I have to say that I'm

1798
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:02,950
thrilled to know that you have a

1799
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:06,250
Christian base and I'm sorry that you

1800
01:25:11,460 --> 01:25:08,770
know you have a fear of being getting

1801
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:11,470
some backlash from others who are

1802
01:25:15,390 --> 01:25:13,090
Christian because you've experienced

1803
01:25:17,550 --> 01:25:15,400
something there's so much fear out there

1804
01:25:20,340 --> 01:25:17,560
there's just so much fear where people

1805
01:25:23,670 --> 01:25:20,350
are like who you met the likes of the

1806
01:25:25,230 --> 01:25:23,680
devil you must have the devil in you

1807
01:25:26,850 --> 01:25:25,240
that's not always the case sometimes

1808
01:25:30,060 --> 01:25:26,860
you're just such a darn bright light

1809
01:25:32,370 --> 01:25:30,070
that the devil wants to stomp it out so

1810
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:32,380
don't let naysayers put thoughts in your

1811
01:25:36,690 --> 01:25:34,210
head go with your own heart and your own

1812
01:25:40,170 --> 01:25:36,700
gut God gave you your own guts for a

1813
01:25:44,870 --> 01:25:40,180
reason you know not to be judged by

1814
01:25:48,060 --> 01:25:44,880
others because he's the only judge hello

1815
01:25:51,690 --> 01:25:48,070
doesn't that say that somewhere and sure

1816
01:25:54,150 --> 01:25:51,700
it's written people don't have people

1817
01:25:56,070 --> 01:25:54,160
drag you down truly you know your faith

1818
01:25:58,950 --> 01:25:56,080
you know where you stand stand with us

1819
01:26:00,750 --> 01:25:58,960
stay strong in it and you know if

1820
01:26:03,390 --> 01:26:00,760
there's people in your life that are

1821
01:26:06,150 --> 01:26:03,400
abusive kick them out of your life it's

1822
01:26:08,940 --> 01:26:06,160
a privilege to be in your life you know

1823
01:26:11,430 --> 01:26:08,950
they gotta earn that that right you know

1824
01:26:13,950 --> 01:26:11,440
you can't this is this is a harsh lesson

1825
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:13,960
that I had to learn when it comes to

1826
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:15,370
people I used to give them all the

1827
01:26:19,740 --> 01:26:16,930
credit in the world until they did me

1828
01:26:23,790 --> 01:26:19,750
wrong instead of letting them earn that

1829
01:26:27,210 --> 01:26:23,800
credit so let people earn it let them

1830
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:27,220
earn it and then perhaps they won't be

1831
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:29,290
so negatively influenced because they'll

1832
01:26:35,669 --> 01:26:30,970
have proved themselves to be a decent

1833
01:26:38,819 --> 01:26:35,679
person how about that so hey like he's

1834
01:26:41,969 --> 01:26:38,829
you know that you are a decent person

1835
01:26:43,529 --> 01:26:41,979
and you're able to keep the darkness to

1836
01:26:48,239 --> 01:26:43,539
obey I like that

1837
01:26:49,890 --> 01:26:48,249
obey good on you so I want to thank you

1838
01:26:51,299 --> 01:26:49,900
so much for taking the time to write me

1839
01:26:53,879 --> 01:26:51,309
and I want to thank everybody else who

1840
01:26:55,709 --> 01:26:53,889
has written me this evening and who is

1841
01:26:58,140 --> 01:26:55,719
called my goodness it's been a busy

1842
01:27:00,719 --> 01:26:58,150
night that's awesome I remember you guys

1843
01:27:02,699 --> 01:27:00,729
could call me beginning up every show

1844
01:27:04,799 --> 01:27:02,709
30 minutes at least and you can always

1845
01:27:06,929 --> 01:27:04,809
call and talk to the awesome guests that

1846
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I get on this show which I often have

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but then I like to do these two because

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I like to reach out to you guys and just

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keep in touch and all that stuff so whoa

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we've come to the bottom of another show

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can you believe that that went really

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quick oh my gosh we got to do this more

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often

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oh so you guys go to my main website

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Heidi Hollis calm and you know check out

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my books I got a lot of them I got six

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on there and remember you can catch me

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here every Friday 9:00 p.m. Eastern 8:00